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Offlinethremix
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I want to use grain.
    #4409288 - 07/15/05 09:50 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

What is rye berries and where can I find them? DO I NEED to simmer, would it help? Is it really as easy as it says on the tek? Now the lid how can I make a good lid? I have the rubber self healing injection site. So now I need a good air exchange to PC.


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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: thremix]
    #4409617 - 07/15/05 11:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Rye grain i had to ask for winter rye(same thing just diff. name) go to grain stores

simmer if you want to, i like to

yes its easy just make sure your rinse good {i change the water before i simmer dump out the nasty water it was soakin in} and pc for awhile i do an hour and a half

if your usin jars just use tyvek


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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: casper7512]
    #4409747 - 07/15/05 11:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I never rinse, just my thing (more info on that and why [steam] in my How I Do Grain link) but you can. You can simmer, I definatly like to. Either way you go, its easy. Dump dry grain in pot and submerge in water for 24 hours. After time is up, if desired, put pot on stove and get to boiling, turn down heat to keep it slightly bubbling until the kernals swell and just start to pop, then strain.

Just throw another hole in the lid and put tyvek under the lid. Then you'll inject through the injection point and tyvek, then remove and no taping, but you got the other hole left for air exchange. You could also try a bandaid over the hole, but not sure which wil stand up to PCing and all that.. Polyfil would work as well..


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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4409947 - 07/16/05 12:33 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Would the tyvek,pollyfill, not get wet? both inside and out? I'm still not sure what rye berries are, Would you find where the rice is? Sorry I just don't go food shopping,

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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: thremix]
    #4410040 - 07/16/05 12:52 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Cover the jar top with aluminum foil. Put the tyvek OVER the jar lid, not under it, held by the ring. (Helps stop contams) I tyvek and punch holes on the sides of the lids with a simple paper punch, no rusting. I ether use a spoon to nock the jar, or a needle and bandade depending on mushroom type. Trim the tyvek flush with the jar ring lower edge.


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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4410224 - 07/16/05 01:28 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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scatmanrav said:
I never rinse, just my thing (more info on that and why [steam] in my How I Do Grain link) but you can. You can simmer, I definatly like to. Either way you go, its easy. Dump dry grain in pot and submerge in water for 24 hours. After time is up, if desired, put pot on stove and get to boiling, turn down heat to keep it slightly bubbling until the kernals swell and just start to pop, then strain.

Just throw another hole in the lid and put tyvek under the lid. Then you'll inject through the injection point and tyvek, then remove and no taping, but you got the other hole left for air exchange. You could also try a bandaid over the hole, but not sure which wil stand




I've been trying the no-simmer approach with rye of late.  Following agar's advice.  After it about doubles in size over around 24 hours of soaking, that seems fine.  (I have dumped out the soak water after several hours then soaked it again with fresh hot water).  Then you don't have to dry it very well before PCing.  Let it drip for an hour or so in the collander/screen and then load up your bag or jar.  Personally, I find this easier.  But I've had problems with over-saturation of grain and wetspot in the past.  So this may just be me.  :shrug:


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    #4410347 - 07/16/05 01:58 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: firsttimer101]
    #4410358 - 07/16/05 01:59 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'm talking about using rye to spawn to poo.  :wink:  I've only fruited off of rye the first time I tried to growing.  I simmered that time, but that was also pint jars.  So, I guess I can't really talk about it much.  :smile:


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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: thremix]
    #4410428 - 07/16/05 02:31 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Rye grain i had to ask for winter rye(same thing just diff. name) go to grain stores





From my Experience, this is not true.

Winter Rye is a seed. It is for lawns and such. I think this is for growing pans. - found at many lawn seed stores, garden stores, grain stores, and many other places.

Rye Berries are what you would use for colonizing for cubes. - I have had trouble finding this locally. Some say health food stores, but I have yet to find one. I called my local Whole Foods and they said they didn't have any in the prepackaged or the bulk. So, I didn't take their word for it and went anyway. Guess what, lbs of it in the bulk section for pennies. So...you may try there if you have one nearby. You can also buy online ya know.


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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: Bobo]
    #4410687 - 07/16/05 03:48 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I tried and tried to get rye to work. I guess Im a filthy bastard cause it contam'ed every time, despite my cleaning efforts and hepa filter.

Anyway, I know lots of people have great success with it. My point is, I wouldnt go into it for the first time and get your hopes too high, because in a lot of cases, some experience is needed.

I gave up and switched to wbs, which has been very pleasant and much more efficient for my personal ability.


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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: CLUTCH]
    #4411226 - 07/16/05 11:37 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Your a little confused bro...

Rye berries = Rye grain

Winter Rye
Fall Rye
Summer Rye

they are all names of Rye grain....just named after the season that they were grown in.

they are good to use!~

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You don't want...Rye grass seed.

unless you are starting a lawn...or want to grow some sclerotia.

Rye grass seed is not a Rye berry(grain).

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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: Roadkill]
    #4411325 - 07/16/05 12:18 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Roadkill said:
Your a little confused bro...

Rye berries = Rye grain

Winter Rye
Fall Rye
Summer Rye

they are all names of Rye grain....just named after the season that they were grown in.

they are good to use!~

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You don't want...Rye grass seed.

unless you are starting a lawn...or want to grow some sclerotia.

Rye grass seed is not a Rye berry(grain).

tc




If you can - get the rye harvested on the summer solstice.
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Re: I want to use grain. [Re: Roadkill]
    #4420587 - 07/18/05 09:41 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks RK for clearing that up for me.

So,

Winter Rye
Fall Rye
Summer Rye

are all Rye Berries too?

I always thought Winter Rye was the seed you would use in winter, Summer Rye- in summer, etc.

Well, that is good to know. I've only tried using the Rye Berries from Whole Foods, but it is still colonizing.


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