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Re: war [Re: looner2]
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Who said anything about erasing war? I am talking about real intelligence, which combines  smarts and emotional maturity.  Almost no humans are intelligent under my defination.

The result is war. That is the evolutionaly state of humanity at the present time. But it does not have to be yours personally. :mushroom2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: war [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Who said anything about erasing war? I am talking about real intelligence, which combines  smarts and emotional maturity.  Almost no humans are intelligent under my defination.

The result is war. That is the evolutionaly state of humanity at the present time. But it does not have to be yours personally. :mushroom2:


Well, alright. Are you at that evolution of real intelligence where you wouldn't support or participate in war? What about violence at all?


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Re: war [Re: looner2]
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war is just a big dick waving contest. well, usually there's the dick wavers and the other side that gets squashed. its fucking stupid, the decisions are made by people who will only see the money, none of the blood shed. i'm not trying to say humans can get rid of war. i'm saying it's proof that humans are fucking stupid.


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Re: war [Re: chucksteak]
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chucksteak said:
war is just a big dick waving contest. well, usually there's the dick wavers and the other side that gets squashed. its fucking stupid, the decisions are made by people who will only see the money, none of the blood shed. i'm not trying to say humans can get rid of war. i'm saying it's proof that humans are fucking stupid.



All war is stupid. We got this part down pat.

If Japan invaded our country tomorrow, and were slaughtering everyone they saw as they made their way across the country, would you fight or call them stupid poopy heads?


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Re: war [Re: looner2]
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No I am not. But I am heading in that direction. There is a lot of things I won't go to war for that I would have 10 years ago.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: war [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
No I am not. But I am heading in that direction. There is a lot of things I won't go to war for that I would have 10 years ago.


So you believe war is necessary and you admit to be willing to participate in it? See, that wasn't so hard. Reality is rough, but you gotta face up to it. Good job!


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Re: war [Re: Icelander]
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then i think we agree looner, i understand it's necassary for protecting yourself, but it's stupid that any protecting would need to be done. but such is the way of human life...


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Re: war [Re: looner2]
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I never said war was necessary! You're putting words into my mouth. What I said was there were things I would go to war for.  :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: war [Re: looner2]
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looner2 said:
chucksteak said:
war is just a big dick waving contest. well, usually there's the dick wavers and the other side that gets squashed. its fucking stupid, the decisions are made by people who will only see the money, none of the blood shed. i'm not trying to say humans can get rid of war. i'm saying it's proof that humans are fucking stupid.



All war is stupid. We got this part down pat.

If Japan invaded our country tomorrow, and were slaughtering everyone they saw as they made their way across the country, would you fight or call them stupid poopy heads?


so now, are you for war or against war? first you say war is necessary for whatever reason, now you say it's stupid. What will it be?


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Re: war [Re: chucksteak]
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chucksteak said:
then i think we agree looner, i understand it's necassary for protecting yourself, but it's stupid that any protecting would need to be done. but such is the way of human life...


protecting yourself agains who?aliens?

So far only humans engaged in wars. Who are they protectking themselfs against?
Nobody. They are killing each other, and that's stupid.


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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ok, let's analise the whole necessarity of war..

ok, now, there's me (oldwoodspecter), there's Icelander and there's looner. We are human society.

So we all live on this field near a forest for 20 years.

And then looner comes one day and says, hey guy we have been living 20 years in peace, isn't it time to have war? War IS necessary after all.

Then we say, YEA, reality is so cruel, but we must face it, let's go boys.

And then we go on the field and have a fist fight.


What started the war? What necessarity?


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Well Young Wood,  What if we were running out of food on the 20 acres, or water. and most of it was in my corner, where I hang. Only enough for two. What then? :evil:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: war [Re: Icelander]
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oh puhlese..

there is enough food and water on earth for everyone, always has been


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Always? In all places? At all times?

You know I am not defending anything here. I just want to take a good look at this.

So puhlese indulge me. :grin: :heart:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: war [Re: Icelander]
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On earth in general.

The problem with lack of food in some countreys is not that there is not enough food for everyone on earth, the problem is that some have more than they need and others don't have enough. If all resources were equaly distributed in the entire earth, all would have enough food watter, and their life would be satisfactionary.


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: war [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I never said war was necessary! You're putting words into my mouth. What I said was there were things I would go to war for.  :wink:


haha, i was replying to looner.


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Re: war [Re: chucksteak]
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So was I  :mushroom2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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OldWoodSpecter said:
chucksteak said:
then i think we agree looner, i understand it's necassary for protecting yourself, but it's stupid that any protecting would need to be done. but such is the way of human life...


protecting yourself agains who?aliens?

So far only humans engaged in wars. Who are they protectking themselfs against?
Nobody. They are killing each other, and that's stupid.


protecting ourselves from other humans... you know, like hitler...and stuff. if some country just started attacking yours of course war is the only way, and is necassary, to stay alive and hopefully get rid of the enemy. of course it would be great if nobody attacked anybody, but it just doesn't work that way for us.

what the problem is though, is that the USA has no reason to blow anybody else up, they are the most powerful nation, but they still see fit to throw their wait around. it's all about money for them, not protection, which is really fucked up.


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Re: war [Re: chucksteak]
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When I say "we" I don't mean a group of humans. I mean US HUMANS.

Why the need to separate humans to sides in discussions?

Hitler is one of us. When hitler started killing, WE started killing, and his shame is the shame of humanity.


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I command your very souls you unbelievers
Bring before me what is mine

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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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OldWoodSpecter said:
When I say "we" I don't mean a group of humans. I mean US HUMANS.

Why the need to separate humans to sides in discussions?

Hitler is one of us. When hitler started killing, WE started killing, and his shame is the shame of humanity.


well, i agree, humans in general are worthless fucktards. but then i have no idea what you're getting at. some humans are bad and have wars... we disagree with war... doesn't change reality any. we need to seperate humans into sides because there are 2 obvious sides here. people who are into war, and people who are not.

:shrug:


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