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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I have tolerated verbal abuse in my past. It hasn't threatened my existence really.


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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It also depends on what the threat is.

If someone is threatning my life or my families life......he will get a "reality check".......up side his head.


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Re: war [Re: mntlfngrs]
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HarryFlashmanVC said:
War? Huh?


What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.....


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Well its good for putting Germany in there place a handful of decades ago.




Think you missed my witticism. Please see http://www.lindqvist.com/index.php?ID=476

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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Hitler did not attack the US...Japan did, but the US attacked Germany regardless.


It is my understanding that after US declared War on Japan, Germany and Italy declared war on US due to their mutual treaty.

And apart from it being the right thing to fight them there was no possibility of a deal with the Nazi's. Ask the Russians.

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Re: war [Re: HarryFlashmanVC]
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Domesticated primates fling bombs and bullets at each other instead of shit.

Edited by MushmanTheManic (07/07/05 06:00 PM)

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Re: war [Re: niteowl]
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Definitely!


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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I have zero tolerance for abuse. It will be resolved one way or another.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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in this thread you are against abuse, and in the other thread you would be all for using power to take food, that's abuse of power too..

The guy abusing kids in highschool is endulging his urge to tease someone at the expense of others. Same way you would engulde your urge to live at the expense of others.
Norwhere does it say that this bully must be satisfied at ALL COST.
Nowhere does it say that you must survive at ALL COST.

The bully is the other side of you and me


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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"in this thread you are against abuse, and in the other thread you would be all for using power to take food, that's abuse of power too"

That is abuse of my person we are discussing. If you and I are ever trapped in a survival situation you are welcome to all of the abuse. DO I give abuse to others in my life....no! I took much of it as a child due to a condition I had that caused tics and verbal grunts and moans involuntarily. I am very sensitive to not giving just plain old abuse...and I don't tolerate it towards myself. Would I fight for my survival...damn straight.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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needs and satisfactions of needs


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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Oh yeah.... I give my life (where dying is a sure thing) only to protect my wife and kids. I would risk my life for others (as a former firefighter/EMT I have done this before), but the odds would have to be in my favor. In the situation you described in the other thread I would fight for my survival.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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and?


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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
and?


exactly..

the bully makes fun of others becuase he has a need and goes to satisfy it.


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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Let him ply his trade near me and I will become his bully. I protect myself. If my survival depends on depriving others of their rights...then I am sorry, but my body tells me to survive.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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you act like he has less right to satisfy his urge to bully others, than you have right to satisfy your own needs (to survive)

If humans can not control satisfaction of their needs, then at least I can respect your struggle to survive over me, and you can respect the bullys struggle to satisfy the need to make fun of you.


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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His need conflicts with mine. So I will consider my need first. Look on the bright side here. If the bully later sincerely asked my help for something I would give it willingly. A friend is better than an enemy...even if the friend is an asshole. Maybe he would help me steal some of that food we were discussing.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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well you can defend yourself if his needs damage you, but you must respect that, because you would do the same


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Re: war [Re: HarryFlashmanVC]
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HarryFlashmanVC said:
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HarryFlashmanVC said:
War? Huh?


What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.....


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Well its good for putting Germany in there place a handful of decades ago.




Think you missed my witticism. Please see http://www.lindqvist.com/index.php?ID=476


Ahh, well it was an opening


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Re: war [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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I respect it...never underestimate a potential enemy...and always have respect for them.


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Re: war [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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man, you are a lion, like the one in your avatar. With family you are a cat that you can pet, and with enemies you are dangerous


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