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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: proof psychedelics can expand the mind [Re: MAIA]
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1. not everyone is a painter, all wil draw it acordingly to their abilities

2. they will ALL draw a rock, non of them will say the didn't see a rock there


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Re: proof psychedelics can expand the mind [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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1. Suppose everyone has the same abilities then.

2. Yes, but would they produce the same exact drawing ?

MAIA


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Re: proof psychedelics can expand the mind [Re: MAIA]
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MAIA said:
1. Suppose everyone has the same abilities then.

2. Yes, but would they produce the same exact drawing ?

MAIA


1. yes, they would draw it differently but that is because each mind isolates unique characteristics of an object. One mind is first going to notice that shadows are blueish, so he is going to exagerate it. The other one is going to notice the texture first, and try to emulate it. The third one will notice first the way the color of the rock is a bit purplish, so he will exagerate that.
All these observations are because of preferences in the mind, different minds are calibrated to look for different things.


2. The fact that they will all draw a differet looking rock does not mean that reality itself is subjective, it only tells us that the picture of reality is subjective.
The rock is there, even those who are hallucinating and can't see it will bump into it and fall down not knowing what is going on.

If one person saw a chair, other one saw nothing, the third one saw a rock, and the forth one saw a plane, and furthermore,if the one seeing a plane would enter it and fly away, and the one not seeing anything would walk through thin air without bumping into anything, that would mean there is no objective reality.


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Re: proof psychedelics can expand the mind [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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I'm not saying there isn't an objective reality, there is. I'm just saying everyone on this planet naturally perceives reality through their subjective and empirical minds. We mostly use mathematical tools to objectify reality, but i don't believe it's the only way to do it.

The use of processes and tools to alter our own perception of reality can disclose another way of viewing reality. That doesn't make it more or less accurate or objective than an unaltered view, just a different side of the prism is shown to you.

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