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the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread
    #4249919 - 06/02/05 10:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

questions questions questions...

i'm about to hit the sac, but my first question is this... where do you install programs to? the first thing i went to do is install firefox, but it's like "you wanna install in this directory?" (/home/phychotron/documents/firefox-installer) which cant be right... so just out of curiosity, where does everything get installed to?

more questions to come... peace :wink:


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Phychotron]
    #4249930 - 06/02/05 10:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

another questiong

#2) can i get this machine to talk to my other computer with windows 2000 on it? that's the one i have a bunch of music on... so i can listen to all my music in this room, from the computer on that room...


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Phychotron]
    #4249939 - 06/02/05 10:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

hrm...

usually /opt

things that aren't part of the os usually go in /opt/product_name

but for shit like command line tools that you don't want to have
to modify your path to include...you can symlink them into /bin
or /usr/bin or some shite.

check this and others like it:

http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: afoaf]
    #4249968 - 06/02/05 10:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

it wont let me create the directory...


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Phychotron]
    #4250029 - 06/02/05 10:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

that's one of the things I hate about Linux AND windows.

Linux just installs shit EVERYWHERE, and has no centralized way of knowing what is installed. It'll put files in like /etc/clownshoes/lickdick and /usr/bin/fuckmehard and /bin and /lib/mod/goatse

but then you just clutter the fuck out of your system

and WINDOWS does the opposite. it puts it all in one spot and then uses that registry to handle all the small details and that sometimes gets way too cluttered and bad as well.

the BEST way I knew of was this distro called "Gobo" linux, that basically did this. It installed ALL of the program in say.../opt/<program name>

and then made LINKS from all those files to where they are supposed to be, so /opt/<program name>/bin all had links to /usr/bin where the files were supposed to be. and it keeps a file of all the links it makes so if you uninstall a program, it a.) deletes all the links, and b.) deleted /opt/<program name>

It's a sexy method. But it's not foolproof.

I personally find Linux to be a pain in the ass 100% more than Windows. But to each his own.


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: freddurgan]
    #4250388 - 06/02/05 11:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

it's just a matter of getting used to the different management
and organizational tools.

Psycho...if you can't create it...make sure / is writeable by your
user or group.

you might need to be root or sudo it.


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: afoaf]
    #4251345 - 06/03/05 06:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

first of all, congrats on your choice! it'll probably take some months before you get efficient at the linux system, but soon enough you should have no trouble!

what distrib are you running, btw?

if you're running debian, there is a great program called apt-get that will install any package with direct debian support (debian.org/packages i believe is the site). any other distrib, well there are 'package managers' that make installing of the most popular packages a lot easier and more organized. search 'synaptic package manager' for example.

as to the talking to a win2k computer, linux can do it no problem. winblows has some trouble talking to a linux computer, though (for example my machine is partitioned - the linux half can perfectly access everything on the winblows half, but from winblows, i have to run some special program to view my linux half.)

feel free to pm me or hit me up on messenger if you have any more questions!


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Phychotron]
    #4251561 - 06/03/05 09:59 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Phychotron said:
another questiong

#2) can i get this machine to talk to my other computer with windows 2000 on it? that's the one i have a bunch of music on... so i can listen to all my music in this room, from the computer on that room...





check out Samba...that should do the trick for cross platform
NFS mounting and communication.


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: afoaf]
    #4251608 - 06/03/05 10:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

you run linux as well, afoaf?


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: freddurgan]
    #4251618 - 06/03/05 10:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Linux actually has a pretty decent file system layout.. If your system is so cluttered its because you didnt install things properly.

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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Krishna]
    #4251654 - 06/03/05 10:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

actually, I run win2k pro on my work laptop, but
I deal with a lot of *nix shit for work.

I don't have a personal computer, but I'm thinking
about building one soon to be an uber music encoder
so I can encode my vinyl, if I do that, I might give
RedHat a run.

I'm just not sure for audio shit if linux is up to snuff
with drivers and yadda yadda...


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: afoaf]
    #4251691 - 06/03/05 11:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

what distrib are you running, btw




i'm using suse 9.1 personal, cause someone recomended it awhile back for beginners (that or knoppix, i got the live eval version and it was annoying)... so it's pretty cool, a lot of annoying new features, and i dont like having to enter the root password to do everything.... probably a good thing though, but still.

how do i assign myself permission to create folders and such? i have Yast, that lets you set users and such, and thier are tons of groups to add users too, and i've added root and it didnt help, as well as all of them, so it's wierd.


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Phychotron]
    #4251699 - 06/03/05 11:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

BAH! Mandrake 10.1 is far more superior for beginers than SUSE. Its just soooo easy to use. Mandrake rulez! www.mandrake.com


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: egghead1]
    #4251733 - 06/03/05 11:38 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

egghead1 said:
BAH! Debian is far more superior for anybody than anything. Its just soooo easy to use. Debian rulez!




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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Krishna]
    #4251738 - 06/03/05 11:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Krishna said:
Quote:

egghead1 said:
BAH! RedHat is far more superior for anybody than anything. Its just soooo easy to use. RedHat rulez!







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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Krishna]
    #4251739 - 06/03/05 11:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thats not what i said KRISHNA, IS IT?!!?!!? You all powerful, all wise, all knowing, all giving, perfect GOD! Why dont you go and be omnipotent someplace else. We dont need you Debian freaks around this part of the universe.  :mad2:  :wink:


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Krishna]
    #4251744 - 06/03/05 11:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i've never used any GUI programs for users and permissions and all that... just use the command line. check this chmod-tutorial, this chown-tutorial, and this for random info.

as to afoaf, linux has always been a bit buggy when it comes to drivers, but i've personally never had any problems with my audio drivers. ask around in some communities, i'm sure you can find a linux solution,


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: Krishna]
    #4251773 - 06/03/05 11:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I imagine if I use mainstream cards and drives, I should be ok.


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: afoaf]
    #4251781 - 06/03/05 11:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes maybe


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Re: the Phychotrons Officaly Gonna start using Linux Thread [Re: afoaf]
    #4251794 - 06/03/05 12:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

otherwise just research any hardware before you buy it, to see if it has good linux support.


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