Xochitl said:

That's actually a pretty good plan Jared.

There's an excellent book called The Origin Diet: How Eating like Our Stone Age Ancestors will Maximize Your Health by Elizabeth Somer, M.A., R.D. that covers exactly what you said in greater detail. Have you read it?

I highly recommend it to anyone here  

book link

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I'll definately check it out. 

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Absurd Nonsense, May 18, 2002
Reviewer: Stephen Byrnes (see more about me) from Honolulu, HI United States
Dietician Elizabeth Somer has done it again: she has written yet another politically correct nutrition book that has little truth in it. In this one, she's attemtping to cash in on the current interest in the Paleolithic diet--the way our ancestors ate.

Somer starts off by rightly stating that for 99% of its history, humanity lived and thrived on a hunter-gatherer diet and that widespread use of agricultural foods is a relatively recent phenomenon. She rightly states that, at the genetic level, people are still the Paleolithic eaters of yesteryear, implying that we should eat more Paleolithic foods.

After that, her premise gets thrown right out the window and she recommends such modern food items as skim milk, whole grains, low-fat cheese, and soybeans! I'd like to see evidence of paleolithic peoples eating a bowl of brown rice. It is just stupid and historically impossible. Her book is full of Food Pyramid hogwash--from misinformation on fatty acids to eating tons of grains to maintain optimal health.

Don't waste your money on this piece of unmitigated garbage. Better and more accurate buys would be Allan and Lutz' book LIFE WITHOUT BREAD, Weston price's NUTRITION AND PHYSICAL DEGENERATION, or Fallon and Enig's NOURISHING TRADITIONS. 

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He recommeneded these books:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...=glance&s=books
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...=glance&s=books
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...=glance&s=books

I'm going to read up on this a bit more, before I make a purchase.. I'd like to know what you think, as well. 

pB0t said:

What a lot of animal activist types don't understand is that harassing people is not an effective way to change their minds. When I ate meat people did this to me and it really turned me off of vegetarianism. Now I find that people who eat meat push it on me way more than vice versa.

I wish the whole world would stop eating meat, eggs and dairy, but it's not going to happen by harassing and threatening people. I think it's more effective to set a good example, and give information to people who want it and let them reach their own conclusions.

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oDin said:

mmmmmmmmm meat

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Merkaba said:

my sister....

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Xochitl said:

Animal Liberation Front. They do great work - break into frivolous testing facilities and rescue the animals. The ALF network will then bring the animals to their own underground sanctuaries out in the sticks & take good care of them.

http://www.animalliberation.net

ELF is more about destruction. ALF is about rescuing and nuturing animals via direct action. Big difference. ALF does resort to property destruction on occasion, but they are far more discriminating then the ELF. The motivations are also different: ELF wants destruction of industrial society in general while ALF seeks to liberate puppies and other defenseless creatures from torture.





re: prostelyizing vegans: some vegans/vegetarians do try to convince others, but most dont. I never bother anyone because diet is a personal choice - I?ll debate only if in a debating situation.

peace

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I checked the page. These are exactly the kind of people who give animal rights activists a bad name. They also do MANY times more damage to animals and the ecosystem than they do good.

According to their own magazine, Bite Back, they have just released 1000 minks in sweden.

Well, MINKS ARE PREDATORS WHO DO NOT NATURALLY LIVE IN SWEDEN. THE SWEDISH ECOSYSTEM (or scandinavian ecosystem in general) CANNOT HANDLE 1000 MINKS RUNNING LOOSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE BEGINNING OF WATERFOWL AND OTHER BIRDS'S NESTING PERIODS. RELEASED MINKS HAVE CAUSED PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THE SCANDINAVIAN ECOSYSTEM ALREADY. WHEN RELEASED THEY WILL BREED EXPONENTIALLY AS THEY HAVE NO NATURAL ENEMIES HERE. MINKS HAVE ALREADY DRIVEN MANY BIRD SPECIES NEAR EXTINCTION, AND HAVE COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED OTHERS, SUCH AS Mustela lutreola IN FINLAND.

And no, this is not fur manufacturer propaganda. I spend most of my summers in the finnish archipelago where you can see mink damage in action.

I am 100% against fur growing. I have very green ideals, which is why
I will continue to shoot every wild mink I see, as I have done in the past.

Idiots who don't understand the consequences of their actions will always end up doing more harm than they do good.