Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

MushroomMan Mycology
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Community > The Pub
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]
Militaristic vegans. How annoying. * 1
    #7089105 -

So there I am this afternoon just enjoying a good read in the park, leafing through Philip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle and soaking up some rays. Minding my own goddamn business. A woman comes and sits on the bench right next to mine, and she's got three big gorgeous dogs with her. I pet one of the dogs and she and I share a very nice kind smile, and then I go back to my book.

A couple of minutes later she leans over...

"Excuse me?"

"Yes?"

"Are you a vegetarian?"

"No, actually, I'm not."

She reaches into her purse and pulls out a couple of pamphlets to hand me. I put out my hand flat and vertical to stop her.

"I don't really have any intention of ever not eating meat."

"Oh. So you like cruelty and death then?"

What the fucking hell can lead someone to make such a wretched jump in logic? I think all the fucking vegetables go to these people's sick heads.

"No, I like to eat meat."

She pushes the pamphlets towards me.

"You know, I came to the park to read, not to be preached to."

At this point i just turn and bury my head back in my book. And then she asks me, "Can I take a photo of you?" Fuck no you can't. Begone!


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089130 -

Tell me more about the book.


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089132 -

:whack: show her whatsup


--------------------
"I'm guessing the 'ancient lost drug' of india is psychedelic mushrooms. The correlation between sacred cows (in hinduism) and magic mushrooms growing on cow dung is too strong to ignore, if you ask me."

As the ocean waves, the universe "peoples"
~Alan Watts~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089137 -

worship my god. it is the only true god.

eat my way. it is the only true way.

notice the similarities?


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] * 1
    #7089141 -

Madtowntripper said:
Tell me more about the book.


It imagines a world in which the Axis powers won World War II. Africa is a barren wasteland, most blacks having perished in Nazi experiments. America is divided into 3 states - the Rocky Mountain States, the Eastern States (a.k.a. United States), and the Pacific States. The Rocky Mountain States exist under joint control while Germany controls the east and Japan the west.


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089163 -

Now see, that sounds like something I would like.


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] * 1
    #7089178 -

I love Phil Dick. The quote from The New York Times Book Review on the back sums it up: His best novels involve a future that is at once entirely recognizable and completely unimaginable.


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089181 -

Damn, I'm gonna have to check that out. It sounds amazing.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Redstorm] * 1
    #7089191 -

I will have to spend a leisurely afternoon at Barnes & Noble when I get back home reading that.

I can't afford to buy new books anymore, and I refuse to wait until the library gets them for me. That does sound like a great read though...

ATTN REDSTORM: I like your sig quote. Is that new?


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089193 -

I will never begin to understand vegans. I DO know that they shit me up the wall, however.

You know what? Yeah I feel guilty about animals being slaughtered for my benefit. But fuck, guess what? We got the thumbs. And the brain that does heaps of awesome stuff. And we need things from meat to survive.

Call the bitch a wahmbulance.


--------------------
Victims; aren't we all?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] * 1
    #7089194 -

I have sigs turned off, someone copy and paste it for me pretty please.


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] * 1
    #7089198 -

Yes it is. I just read it a couple days ago and struck me as very, very acceptable for being close to 200 years old.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Butta] * 1
    #7089216 -

Butta said:
And we need things from meat to survive.


a meat diet is nonessential to living. vital b12 can be alternatively obtained through chlorella, spirulina, and other various seaweeds. the better argument would be that meat simply tastes good to most of us. :wink:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: AlteredAgain] * 1
    #7089237 -

AlteredAgain said:
Butta said:
And we need things from meat to survive.


a meat diet is nonessential to living. vital b12 can be alternatively obtained through chlorella, spirulina, and other various seaweeds. the better argument would be that meat simply tastes good to most of us. :wink:


Ok, fair play, but what about places that don't have easy access to seaweed? Don't see Africans eating sushi :tongue:
For the hundreds of thousands of years we've been trotting about on this planet, we've been eating stuff that makes noises. Fuck them for getting all uppity about it now :tongue:


--------------------
Victims; aren't we all?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089247 -

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
I have sigs turned off, someone copy and paste it for me pretty please.


[quote]"What good does it do me, after all, if an ever-watchful authority keeps an eye out to ensure that my pleasures will be tranquil and races ahead of me to ward off all danger, sparing me the need even to think about such things, if that authority, even as it removes the smallest thorns from my path, is also absolute master of my liberty and my life; if it monopolizes vitality and existence to such a degree that when it languishes, everything around it must also languish; when it sleeps, everything must also sleep; and when it dies, everything must also perish?"

- Alexis de Tocqueville (on the centralization of administration)




--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Madtowntripper] * 1
    #7089254 -

Lovely. Is that from Democracy in America? I read that a long while ago.


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Butta] * 1
    #7089260 -

Butta said:
You know what? Yeah I feel guilty about animals being slaughtered for my benefit.


Why? Thanks to farming, cattle and pigs are some of the most widespread animals. Fuck em.


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT] * 1
    #7089261 -

All those fucking cows are farting holes into my goddamn atmosphere. Burger me, baby!


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089264 -

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Lovely. Is that from Democracy in America? I read that a long while ago.


Yes it is. I just realized last week that I never took a political theories class, so I'll using my time now to try to self-teach myself the pillars.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
    #7089268 -

:onfire:


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7089270 -

HELLA_TIGHT said:
Butta said:
You know what? Yeah I feel guilty about animals being slaughtered for my benefit. 


Why? Thanks to farming, cattle and pigs are some of the most widespread animals. Fuck em.


Just because I've seen how they do it, as I'm sure we all have, and it disgusts me. There's 6.6 billion people in the world, why don't we start eating some of them? Personally, I'd like to eat Liv Tyler til the fucking sun comes up :wink:


--------------------
Victims; aren't we all?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Redstorm]
    #7089276 -

Redstorm said:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Lovely. Is that from Democracy in America? I read that a long while ago.


Yes it is. I just realized last week that I never took a political theories class, so I'll using my time now to try to self-teach myself the pillars.


I took a real good Political Philosophy senior year of H.S. and I am pretty sure that's when we read it. I should revisit it.


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7089281 -

you shouldve just bit her.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: roby000]
    #7089284 -

Do vegans swallow?


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7089304 -

HELLA_TIGHT said:
Do vegans swallow?


If you ejaculate lentils, yes.


--------------------
Victims; aren't we all?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7089309 -

It's a bit dry while it's taking 200 pages to describe the political institutions of the United States, but I'm just getting to the qualities of the US and its people which make our system work, which should be a bit more interesting.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7090254 -

Weirdos.  They're as bad as Jehova's Witnesses sometimes. 

I'm gonna go eat a burger for lunch.  :yesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7090261 -

As an aside, every single vegan or vegetarian I know is in poor health. They are either overweight because they compensate for all of the missing animal fat with garbage food (cookies, chips, etc..) or they are too skinny in an unhealthy way.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Redstorm]
    #7090271 -

Redstorm said:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Lovely. Is that from Democracy in America? I read that a long while ago.


Yes it is. I just realized last week that I never took a political theories class, so I'll using my time now to try to self-teach myself the pillars.


What else do you plan to read?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: implicitli]
    #7090317 -

implicitli said:
Redstorm said:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Lovely. Is that from Democracy in America? I read that a long while ago.


Yes it is. I just realized last week that I never took a political theories class, so I'll using my time now to try to self-teach myself the pillars.


What else do you plan to read?


Machiavelli, Locke, Plato, Hobbes, Leo Strauss, Kant, Paine, and then maybe a couple more modern ones like Joseph Nye and others.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Redstorm]
    #7090319 -

John Locke?


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7090323 -

Yes'sir

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: Redstorm]
    #7090340 -

Nice, sounds alarmingly like my degree. You should add some Plato and Aristotle to your list, since most of the philosophers that you mentioned refer back to them.

I've always wanted to read Democracy in America in full, but I have never seen it at a book store. I think that de Tocqueville could be my favorite political theorist.

Oooh - read Bloom's Closing of the American Mind as well. He's brilliant, he was one of Strauss' students.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: implicitli]
    #7090344 -

Plato is already on there.

^_^


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7090375 -

Sorry, sometimes I just get excited to recommend him.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: implicitli]
    #7090379 -

Plato gets me all hot and bothered, as well.


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7090380 -

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
It imagines a world in which the Axis powers won World War II. Africa is a barren wasteland, most blacks having perished in Nazi experiments. America is divided into 3 states - the Rocky Mountain States, the Eastern States (a.k.a. United States), and the Pacific States. The Rocky Mountain States exist under joint control while Germany controls the east and Japan the west.


So you like cruelty and death then?


--------------------
Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

:heartpump:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7090381 -

:whacker:

"Ah yeah, that's right Plato. RIGHT THERE. OOOOH YEAH."


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7090411 -

HELLA_TIGHT said:
:whacker:

"Ah yeah, that's right Plato. RIGHT THERE. OOOOH YEAH."


I think that I just fell in love with you. Sigh.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: implicitli]
    #7090449 -

That happens a lot, don't worry about. :smirk:


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7090494 -

when i moved here to west philly i had a lot of laughs and shit about this. be a vegan, whatever, but here it's become a scene on its own. like an elitist thing. its comical.
eat tofu if you want. just leave me alone while my mouth has sweet and tasty sex with a 16oz steak.


--------------------
TACOS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7090543 -

I'm afraid that one day I might turn into one of those militarialistic vegans. I eat meat right now, but very little, and when I cook it is mostly vegetarian; while my baking (and roommate's) is almost always vegan.

I don't push my beliefs on people, but I certainly push my cooking.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7090570 -

thats fucking ridiculous though, to turn your diet into a scene or to form cliques based on what you eat....are people really that desperate for common ground? and that cuntish that they'll turn it into a fucking religion of sorts or some bullshit that they try to force on other people? why cant people just do what they like and leave others to their pwn devices?


--------------------
TACOS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
    #7090572 -

HeadTripVertigo said:
leave others to their pwn devices?


:lol:


--------------------
Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

:heartpump:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7090605 -

lol awesome typo


--------------------
TACOS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7090661 -

That's fucked.

I would of told her my favourite meat is dog and how I like to order it overseas to prepare stews and even make homemade hamburgers out of it.

And then ask her, "can I take a picture of your dogs?"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Militaristic vegans. How annoying. [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7094325 -

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Madtowntripper said:
Tell me more about the book.


It imagines a world in which the Axis powers won World War II. Africa is a barren wasteland, most blacks having perished in Nazi experiments. America is divided into 3 states - the Rocky Mountain States, the Eastern States (a.k.a. United States), and the Pacific States. The Rocky Mountain States exist under joint control while Germany controls the east and Japan the west.


The book is just getting better and better.  One major element of it is the existence, in this alternate future, of a book called The Grasshopper Lies Heavy. And in that book, the author imagines what had happened if Germany and Japan had lost the war. :crazy2:


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Community > The Pub
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Vegans
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )		 millar 6,976 153 08/11/13 04:16 PM
by Elliot
* Magnitude 8.9 Earthquake Hits Coast of Japan, Tsunamis and Aftershocks Striking Shores
( 1 2 3 4 ... 73 74 )		 gzuf 69,226 1,472 07/19/11 03:39 PM
by dummy
* Ok i can understand vegetarian but vegan?
( 1 2 3 4 ... 12 13 all )		 Muufokfok 18,728 243 12/11/15 05:25 PM
by Mr.PhilCybin
* Vegan Sausage...
( 1 2 3 4 all )		 Sprezzatura 4,523 74 01/23/11 04:22 PM
by BothHands
* To All The Vegans
( 1 2 3 all )		 GabbaDj 2,093 40 08/05/09 12:50 AM
by Lara_Hastings
* Interesting article (What Japan's disaster tells us about peak oil) DeadHearts 872 3 04/06/11 04:28 PM
by realfuzzhead
* What really irks me about "vegan logic"
( 1 2 3 4 ... 12 13 )		 blewmeanie 11,505 252 11/10/10 12:00 AM
by the spiral
* When a vegan lectures you on the evils of meat
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )		 MOTH 24,249 158 04/13/05 07:45 PM
by blackroselove

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
2,708 topic views. 5 members, 2,510 guests and 98 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.05 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 14 queries.