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    #7470835 - 09/30/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

a lot of the vegans I encounter/ know piss me off
I work at whole foods so I also get a lot of customers who are vegan...and I can spot them a mile away.
why do they feel like they need to define themselves by their diet. I've seen many who wear vegan clothes, patches, tattoos and whatnot. also the ones I actually know seem to always bring it up in conversation time and time again. is this really necessary?

obviously this doesn't apply to all of them, but I feel its a great deal of them


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Re: vegans [Re: mikeytro]
    #7470841 - 09/30/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh no, it's all of them


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Re: vegans [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7470853 - 09/30/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

vegans suck.:crankey:

people who choose not to eat animal products are alright though.


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Re: vegans [Re: pong]
    #7470868 - 09/30/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea most vegans are on their high pedastool. I mean its good and all and takes planning and dedication but yea. They need to stfu.


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Re: vegans [Re: pong]
    #7470873 - 09/30/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You know, I feel so sorry for vegans and vegetarians. They are missing out on so much flavor, texture, and general scrumptiousness (is that even a word?).

I'd still slam them, though. :naughty:


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Re: vegans [Re: HybridFlash]
    #7470895 - 09/30/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I respect vegetarians...they have valid reasoning for their decisions and makes sense
hell I would be one because I dont eat meat very often at all. but a good steak once every blue moon definitely fulfills my craving.
just dont really have the dedication

I just dont get why vegans have to make it clear as water to everyone around them that they are vegan. keep you beliefs or whatever to yourself and share at an appropriate time if the topic comes up


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Re: vegans [Re: HybridFlash]
    #7470899 - 09/30/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm a vegan and Im not anything like that, Im new to it, though.

Yeah, I am missing out on a lot of flavor and whatnot.. you're right. I also agree that most the other Vegans ive met are as you described them.

They fucking piss me off.
Vegatarians are nicer XD


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Re: vegans [Re: InsaneMaryJane]
    #7470904 - 09/30/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

why are you a vegetarian?
i mean
what is your reasoning for becoming one?


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7470912 - 09/30/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Just an old school answer, i guess.

I simply feel bad for em. Thats it. The truth on how they are treated is very unethical. It is just an opion, however. I dont judge people on what they eat. Netiher extremes are very healthy.


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Re: vegans [Re: mikeytro]
    #7471000 - 09/30/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it is human nature to want to be in a tribe. i dont assiciate with those in the vegan tribes. they have too many other things going on i dont agree with.
like the not bathing.:boxerface:
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Re: vegans [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
    #7471028 - 09/30/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

fuck vegans. they always make it a huge pain in the ass to go out to eat, anywhere. i just cant trust a motherfucker that doesnt get cheese on a pizza


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Re: vegans [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #7471052 - 09/30/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

haha

vegans are funny, because in my experience cattle have about as much of a soul as the yeast they consume in their cheap wine.


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Re: vegans [Re: pong]
    #7471509 - 09/30/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

beef and broccoli - immortal technique,

ook, let me make something abundantly clear for people
that are so bereft of activities
they feel like they gotta comment on every one of mine
First of all, being a vegetarian should never be associated
with being a revolutionary or being open minded, that's a dietary choice
If someone wants to proliferate the type of ignorance
we're supposed to be fighting by thinking that, you're just fucking yourself
I don't go around promoting beef and poultry shoving it in peoples faces
I don't castigate people for not eating steak sandwiches
And I would never diss someone for being a fucking broccoli head
or living off radishes or eating grass with tofu
I like a lot of vegan cuisine but the illogicality
of expecting everyone to adopt your particular idea
of what being healthy is, is just preposterous
I've seen some of you herbivores, and if you wanna argue health
y'all need to eat some kind of supplement
because some of y'all are so skinny that it's disgusting
Lookin like the only hip hop motherfuckas on Schindler's list
Being a malnutrition ass got nothing to do
with being revolutionary or being on point
I'll be damned if I let somebody else push their agenda on me
You know, I don't eat pork, not cause I'm a Muslim
I just don't really like it, but I really will fuck a bird up
And fish is good when that shit is fresh
It's like my nigga Vast Aire from Can' Ox said
If you don't like the smell of burning meat, then get the fuck off the planet
You know, I don't criticize people for eating moss
And don't open your fuckin mouth about my food man
I like beef and broccoli motherfucka, mind your God damn business
Matter of fact, you know what? I'm out
I feel like a some aronco pollo, a banana daiquiri
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Re: vegans [Re: Hakim0777]
    #7471530 - 09/30/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: vegans [Re: Brainiac]
    #7471568 - 09/30/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i can see why people want to be vegetarian


but i dont understand why people want to be vegan


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Re: vegans [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7471572 - 09/30/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

can someone tell me what the difference is hahaha


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Re: vegans [Re: pong]
    #7471573 - 09/30/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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pong said:
haha

vegans are funny, because in my experience cattle have about as much of a soul as the yeast they consume in their cheap wine.


Cows are stupider then flies, they need to be used for food, what other use are they good for? Cow tipping? :lol:


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Re: vegans [Re: Brainiac]
    #7471583 - 09/30/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I can understand that there are some annoying vegans & vegetarians out there, but we are not all arrogant and preachy.

I don't really care if other people eat meat, but look at it from my point of view.

For some crazy reason, the though of eating other creatures bothers me. Me not eating animals shouldn't offend someone on the same level as say, you eating them to me.

Once again, I wouldn't preach it to someones face, but I still have a right to think it, just as you have a right to think i'm strange for eating broccoli.


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Re: vegans [Re: MrMax]
    #7471613 - 09/30/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Drink a protien supplement, I do when I workout...but you need extras when you exercise and lift weights.
But I still would love fish, it has hardly any fat at all..it is natural. Dont get the salmon patrol on me yet! haha, fish are meant to eat..ahh poor fish!
oh yea BTW have you ever smoked marijuana? it gives you the mad munchies!
So yes sometimes I eat my share of fatty foods sometimes. so what? I know I am not a true hippie, I need to smoke a bowl I am not as high anymore..


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    #7471615 - 09/30/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: vegans [Re: MrMax]
    #7471619 - 09/30/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i honestly don't think there should be any moral issue with killing another animal
yes you take a life
but that IS life
if you take any element out of the food chain
it would be detrimental
and we are as important an element in the food chain as any other

so i advocate the eating of meat
i actually think that if you want to eat only meat
you should go ahead and do so

say there was a role reversal
and we were in farms
and chicken were eating us
you think they'd give a shit
no


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7471624 - 09/30/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I live in the city...there is not much hunting ground around here, but i would not have any hangups killing little ol bambi. That is some good eatin.


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Re: vegans [Re: Chubba]
    #7471636 - 09/30/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

chubba, i would have no problem killing another human being and eating him
if i had to live

if it's down to survival
i'd do some fucked up shit


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7471664 - 09/30/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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chubba, i would have no problem killing another human being and eating him
if i had to live

if it's down to survival
i'd do some fucked up shit




definitely. id kill to live any time the choice had to be made i would definitely do anything not to die.


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Re: vegans [Re: pong]
    #7471674 - 09/30/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah
that's why some Asian people eat dogs and cats and other animals

i don't see what the whole fuss is about
Asian countries are poor
and they eat what they can get


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7471685 - 09/30/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I know I want to buy a dog and eat it. Isn't that illegal though? Which is fucking retarded if it is because I can buy a pig, cow, chicken or whatever and kill it and eat it. but no dog?


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7471689 - 09/30/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

its not just about eating another animal, its also about how the animals are mis treated there whole life then slaughtered just so we can have a tasty dinner.

only buy organic products and that problem is sorted..


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Re: vegans [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7471693 - 09/30/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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only buy organic products and that problem is sorted..




as much as I would LOVE that. It is just too damn expensive to eat only organic. sadly.


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Re: vegans [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7471708 - 09/30/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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its not just about eating another animal, its also about how the animals are mis treated there whole life then slaughtered just so we can have a tasty dinner.

only buy organic products and that problem is sorted..




i do
i eat free range chicken and turkey
i don't usually buy from mass produce vendors like Vons or any other grocery store
and there's this new all organic grocery store called Sprouts
it's a little over priced
but i enjoy their food
and their beer :thumbup:


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Re: vegans [Re: Tangerines]
    #7471917 - 09/30/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wow. I love bees assholes. I love honey in my tea, it helps my throat. Excretions from the anus is like medicine. Certain vegans who are too picky will not live as long if theyre too picky & bitchy about flavors or if it's not even animal based. I mean hell we all need to borrow from another. It's primal & human instinct.


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7471977 - 09/30/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Psilobuds said:
its not just about eating another animal, its also about how the animals are mis treated there whole life then slaughtered just so we can have a tasty dinner.

only buy organic products and that problem is sorted..




i do
i eat free range chicken and turkey
i don't usually buy from mass produce vendors like Vons or any other grocery store
and there's this new all organic grocery store called Sprouts
it's a little over priced
but i enjoy their food
and their beer :thumbup:







fuck yeah
that place is good.
i'm eating some of there pie right now, and its delicious. THere beer is good, but its just really expensive european beer like michelob and fosters etc.  Its pricey, but free if you get the 5 finger discounts... :-) so easy there hahaa


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Re: vegans [Re: OzzyOz]
    #7472001 - 09/30/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

haha nice
i like Flat Tire

it's delishus ale


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7472007 - 09/30/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ahhh i've never tried flat tire
but i hear its pretty good

if it tastes anything remotely like rolling rock, then it's probablly delicious.


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Re: vegans [Re: OzzyOz]
    #7472015 - 09/30/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ask Taylor
he lives across from Wolfe's
he always gets Flat Tires from who knows where haha


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7472025 - 09/30/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ohhh i will tommorow hahaha

damn i think we jacked this thread

how was the dance???


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Re: vegans [Re: OzzyOz]
    #7472028 - 09/30/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

couldn't tell ya


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7472031 - 09/30/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

too much flat tire??? or did you just not go????????/


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Re: vegans [Re: OzzyOz]
    #7472036 - 09/30/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i'll talk to you about it later. we're ruining the thread!


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Re: vegans [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7472039 - 09/30/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oh yeah..


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Re: vegans [Re: mikeytro]
    #7472065 - 09/30/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

USDA approved meat is at an all time low in quality. Many countries around the world would refuse to eat American meat. I simply can't stand for how the big ag business makes it's hard for small good farms to turn over profits without corrupting their quality. It's terrible how they treat the animals. Cageing 100,000's of animals with literally no space to move pumped up on hormones, steroids, and antibiotics all the time is nowhere near humane. Plus the meat we consume on a daily basis in America is just downright unhealthy.

So I quit eating meat about 3 months ago. It was something I wanted to do for a long time, but I truely loved beef. But now, looking back, I enjoy what I eat now a whole lot more. I really don't think there is anything appetizing about meat anymore. In fact, anytime I go out to eat I see entre one after another all based around meat. But when you have a vegetarian dish, the flavor is so much more robust and unique. Plus you don't have to cook everything to the degree you have to meat. I do however eat fish, and I don't like to do that. I love the taste, but the only reason I eat it is to give me that precious fish oil. I need my protein and Omega 3, 6, 9's. But even the fish I eat is always wild caught, not farm raised. I try not to eat any eggs unless they are free range organic. I also try to eat as much organic fruits and vegetables as I can. I eat anything I can raw.

I do still drink cows milk which I plan on cutting out...my last real food addiction. I love milk, but its not all good for you. Vanilla soy milk acutally tastes good, and have more vitamins in it all together. But as far as honey goes, honey is natures antibiotic and cleanser. Unpasteurized honey does wonders for your health if you consume it on a daily basis.

But bottom lines, I try to do everything based around health. If its not healthy, I don't like to do it.


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Re: vegans [Re: HybridFlash]
    #7472108 - 09/30/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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You know, I feel so sorry for vegans and vegetarians. They are missing out on so much flavor, texture, and general scrumptiousness (is that even a word?).


Ummmm, no.

I'm pretty tired of so many people saying that. No I don't want any steaks in my salad or whatever. That's like saying everyone who doesn't eat cabbage is crazy. It's personal preference! If some vegetarian or vegan is really craving some meat, they can STFU and go eat some.
I ate only veggie food (no dairy either) for a whole summer, and when I ate a greasy burger with a beef steak one evening it tasted pretty shitty. Haven't seen any reason to touch it since.

But yeah I know what people mean, preachy hardcore vegans are really annoying! They have a crappy attitude and are only pissing people off. Most humans don't give a shit, are too stupid to understand what they talk about or enjoy meat and are only interested in their own pleasure (conscious choice). :rolleyes:

I eat organic and vegan food when I can afford it because it makes me feel good and is tasty. Dairy is crap but my school's free veggie lunch has it so...


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Re: vegans [Re: Meepp]
    #7474247 - 10/01/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Veganism seems a bit too hardcore for me, but just for the heck of it I sometimes go  vegetarian for a couple of months, just for a change of flavors in my diet.  I can make a vegetarian pizza that kicks shit out of anything I've ever tried with meat on it, with the help of some flavor filled fungi of course.:crazy2:


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    #7474254 - 10/01/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol pizza with meat sucks anyway.

and i love meat!!


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    #7474261 - 10/01/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I dont eat anything that casts a shadow. IN YER FACE


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    #7474267 - 10/01/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

FILTER FEEDER FTW!!!!


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    #7474318 - 10/01/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Obviously many of the vegans & vegetarians haven't studied the food chain



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    #7474372 - 10/01/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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a lot of the vegans I encounter/ know piss me off
I work at whole foods so I also get a lot of customers who are vegan...and I can spot them a mile away.
why do they feel like they need to define themselves by their diet. I've seen many who wear vegan clothes, patches, tattoos and whatnot. also the ones I actually know seem to always bring it up in conversation time and time again. is this really necessary?

obviously this doesn't apply to all of them, but I feel its a great deal of them




im all about eating healthy, organic, and i try to be as much of a vegetarian as i can, i just cant stay away from poultry and seafood. but i know what you mean, theyre way too overbearing about it, they try to push it on everyone, all the time. now dont get me wrong, ill jump into an already occuring argument, or if someone brings it up ill talk about it, but i dont feel the need to push my dietary beliefs on anyone unless theyre willing to hear it or argue about it. it pisses me off when anyone does this about anything in life like religion or any other lifestyle.

i think many of their problems are that they think they are better than the rest of us, due to the fact that they can make the sacrifices that the rest of us choose not to.


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    #7474550 - 10/01/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Having followed a vegan diet for over five years I have to agree that many vegans and vegetarians have a holier-than-thou attitude they justify by pointing to their diet.

Some claim that by abstaining from meat and dairy they have found a means of sustenance which does no harm to the earth or their fellow man.

What they often fail to point out is the equivalent amount of packaging required for their foods, the same innefficient farming and transportation methods used for any supermarket products, and the presence of chemical processing and pesticides in their food.

The resources saved by skipping animal products are significant, but industrial fertilizers and fossil fuels are still humping that tofu to my dinner table.


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    #7474602 - 10/01/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah. i agree. thats why i get all of my produce from local produce stands. i try to stick with the ones that are smaller, as they usually dont use all of the fertilizers and chemicals. i try to get my poultry from local butchers as well. seafood.... not much i can do about that. i get what i can locally, but most of it is imported.


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