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    #3926756 - 03/16/05 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: ]
    #3926765 - 03/16/05 07:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thats just healthy fgrowth


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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: ShroomGuy86]
    #3926773 - 03/16/05 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

looking good.


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    #3926819 - 03/16/05 07:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: ]
    #3928364 - 03/17/05 12:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As the others have stated, the strand-like growth is rhizomorphic growth.  This is the good stuff.  Rhizomorphic mycelium usually is the mycelium capable of producing fruit, so that's what you're looking for.  If you get a chance, read this book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0961079800/102-4534159-2922562 it gives you an incredibly firm foundation to start from.


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    #3928498 - 03/17/05 01:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: banda1825]
    #3928974 - 03/17/05 04:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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looking good.




not as good as this!~



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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: Roadkill]
    #3928987 - 03/17/05 04:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Lord have mercy!~





yes :grin:


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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: Roadkill]
    #3929206 - 03/17/05 07:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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looking good.




not as good as this!~



Lord have mercy!~




What did I tell you about posting that?






You know my girlfriend hates it when you show that pic of her flashing!  :crazy: :smirk:


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    #3929883 - 03/17/05 12:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: ]
    #3929892 - 03/17/05 12:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Uhh I guess i'll just continue to incubate that jar then, lol.




Yeah do that.

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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: ]
    #3929919 - 03/17/05 12:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Uhh I guess i'll just continue to incubate that jar then, lol.

EDIT: Would it be good to take off the lids and replace with something like a coffee filter+rubberband?




If you remove lids, you'll be opening them up to contams. Very bad idea. Plus coffee filters are shitty filters. Keeps out dust, but not spores.


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3929982 - 03/17/05 12:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Stamets / Chilton aren't very clear on WHY rhizomorphic growth tends to put out fruit. But here's a guess (I think, a good one, but anyone who knows different or can verify it, please say so) based on what they DO say. Mushrooms have two parts to their reproduction. First, is asexual. When a spore clones, it just divides and begins a karyotic mycelium colony. This asexual reproduction rarely produces mushrooms (some species more than others). When this colony contacts another karyotic colony, if it's compatible, they swap genetic material in sexual reproduction. This new dikaryotic mycelium is faster, more vigorous, and highly more capable of producing fruit. They also make it clear (and experience bears this out) that rhizomorphic growth is much more likely than cottony growth to produce fruit. Now here's the guess: dikaryotic (mated) mycellium is what appears as rhizomorphic growth. It's just a guess, because I can't find confirmation anywhere, except to note that all the pictures I've seen of agar culture grown from a piece of one shroom are rhizomorphic. If that were true, it would tend to bear it out because the mushroom itself is comprised of dikaryotic mycellia.

I'm not married to this theory, but it seems logical.


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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: Mages]
    #3930017 - 03/17/05 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Stamets / Chilton aren't very clear on WHY rhizomorphic growth tends to put out fruit.  But here's a guess (I think, a good one, but anyone who knows different or can verify it, please say so) based on what they DO say.  Mushrooms have two parts to their reproduction.  First, is asexual.  When a spore clones, it just divides and begins a karyotic mycelium colony.  This asexual reproduction rarely produces mushrooms (some species more than others).  When this colony contacts another karyotic colony, if it's compatible, they swap genetic material in sexual reproduction.  This new dikaryotic mycelium is faster, more vigorous, and highly more capable of producing fruit.  They also make it clear (and experience bears this out) that rhizomorphic growth is much more likely than cottony growth to produce fruit.  Now here's the guess: dikaryotic (mated) mycellium is what appears as rhizomorphic growth.  It's just a guess, because I can't find confirmation anywhere, except to note that all the pictures I've seen of agar culture grown from a piece of one shroom are rhizomorphic.  If that were true, it would tend to bear it out because the mushroom itself is comprised of dikaryotic mycellia.

I'm not married to this theory, but it seems logical.




I have always thought of it very basically....mycelium is trying to form one solid network for moving nutrients and water from all over the substrate, to the pins. Cottony fluffy shit, seems to bind the substrate together more, more like a hard rock. Ropey strandy stuff though, stays looser and less compact and those hyphae are like highways compared to cottony shit (hilly dirt roads), better for transfering nutrients and water...

Just another theory :smile: Maybe even same thing and a little of both of what were talking about, you may just be going more scientifically about it.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: Roadkill]
    #3930123 - 03/17/05 01:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the pic of Sidney Moon, Road. I've always thought she was awesome.


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Re: Strand-like Growth [Re: Mages]
    #3935962 - 03/18/05 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks for the pic of Sidney Moon, Road. I've always thought she was awesome.




Don't thank me...thank banda1825

he has her in his Avatar...in this thread.


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