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MOTH
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Can hippies be violent?
#3746453 - 02/07/05 04:33 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Although I post most often in the Pub, I do not consider myself a hippie. This is because I have a violent streak that I indulge from time to time. I like to get in touch with my lower nature as often as I get in touch with my higher one. I'm not necessarily a violent person...I don't start fights without provocation or anything. But the fierce side of me feels that you can't win everything by being peaceful. If you are totally against violence, wouldn't you get stomped on all the time?
Now, I hate violence. I believe every possible non-violent course of action should be taken first before any violent action. But there is a point where you might need to be violent to save yourself, or a family member. In that case, I will have no mercy, and yes, I will admit I do feel that orgasmic pleasure whenever fighting physically for something I believe in.
And what about rising up against an oppressive power? I see a lot of hippies talking about non-violent resistance. I agree with this to an extent. But what about our founding fathers who rose up against the British? Is there ever a war worth fighting for? I mean, isn't there a point where you have to say, "fuck this" and start getting physical? Where is that point? And would a hippie reconcile violence in that case?
I believe the best policy in terms of violence and peace is BALANCE. If there's anything I learned by tripping, it's to stop my behavior from going to extremes. In any direction.
So that's why I'm not really a hippie. Because my lower-self knows that if a revolution occured, I would be tempted to arm myself for it and go fight.
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746471 - 02/07/05 04:37 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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A hippy will get violent when you hold his head under water for a long time, but that gradually fades to a peaceful state if you can keep his head under long enough.
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Hendostan
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746518 - 02/07/05 04:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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EllemyshShade said:I believe the best policy in terms of violence and peace is BALANCE. If there's anything I learned by tripping, it's to stop my behavior from going to extremes. In any direction.
not only in war and peace, but everything in life, balance is key. i will choose nonviolence almost every time, but if it comes down to defending myself or somebody, i have no problem with physical retaliation. just because i have chosen a lifestyle more consistent with non violent values doesn't mean i'm not willing or able to defend myself and those i love. martial arts is a good way to keep your body in balance with the mind.
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Dreamer987
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746529 - 02/07/05 04:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Violence isn't wrong when used in self defence. Violence is a neccisary part of the human experience. If your not willing to physicly protect yourself, than your subject to being victimized. What about say, violence not used in self defense. What about using violence to defend your honor, or to punish someone who has wronged you? Might not be hippicly correct, but still something that most people would do without batting an eye.
and what is a hippie anyway? Hippie is such a subjective term. There aren't really many hippies left these days. The real hippies were the pioneers of the sixties. The ones who got there freak on before it was a cool mainstream thing to do. There are a few of them left over, but mostly us neo-hippies. Cyber-punks trying to mimic the love generation.
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: Hendostan]
#3746532 - 02/07/05 04:50 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah its all about duality...im a peace loving hippie but that doesent mean its impossible to piss me off...i wont fight anyone tho unless i was just defending myself...cept for a couple of people.
The motherfuckers that raped my girl i would fucking blidside in the face if i ever saw them. Even tho we may not be getting back together...id still fucking do it.
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746549 - 02/07/05 04:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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a hippie is just a label people like to apply to themselves.
I'm sure many people have many hippie qualities...but when you ask...what is a hippie, there is the ideas and then there is a dress code. just like punks, goths, and any other label, a lot of it has to deal with some sort of consumer label.
by wearing tye dye, people may think of you as a hippie. I have long hair and sometimes wear red glasses (which are great for tripping) and so people say "hey you! you dirty hippie"
but you know what? I like guns and hunting, I absolutely love meat, glowsticks, fighting, loving, etc. we all have it in some for or another
now as far as ideas go, I'm all about peace love unity and respect, but I would flat out be in denial if I said I haven't spewed some sort of hate at someone before.
getting past the label and seeing how we are all the same is where it is at IMHO
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: Dreamer987]
#3746605 - 02/07/05 05:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dreamer987 said... what is a hippie anyway? Hippie is such a subjective term. There aren't really many hippies left these days. The real hippies were the pioneers of the sixties. The ones who got there freak on before it was a cool mainstream thing to do. There are a few of them left over, but mostly us neo-hippies. Cyber-punks trying to mimic the love generation
...5 SHROOMS for you!! All these BS threads and refrences to 'hippies'... I'm Fourty-fuckin'-Seven and tooYOUNG to be a hippie.My long hair turned grey and fell out,we still make WAR, not peace, free love is over{thankyou AIDS},...and plenty of the 'hippies from the sixties' voted for Bush!!!
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: vinsue]
#3746640 - 02/07/05 05:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn your as old as Ripple...*geezers Old people are cool
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746663 - 02/07/05 05:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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violent hippie = yippie
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vinsue
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: PawPaw]
#3746675 - 02/07/05 05:17 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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PawPaw saidOld people are cool
...until we're Quote:
Cold in the ground
BTW...thankx for the rate push a while back.
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mikl
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: Hendostan]
#3746694 - 02/07/05 05:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Very well said my fellow drifter(pub/OTD).
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MOTH
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: kaiowas]
#3746708 - 02/07/05 05:25 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used the label "hippie" in my post because of all the "dirty hippie" phrases I hear about the Shroomery.
Hey, we're not all love and flowers here in the Pub!
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746723 - 02/07/05 05:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Look at the RNC, yes hippies can be violent.
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PawPaw
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746724 - 02/07/05 05:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Texan Love Song.....
Ellemy please listen to this song
I heard from a friend you'd been messing around With a cute little thing I'd been dating uptown Well I don't know if I like that idea much Well you'd better stay clear I might start acting rough
You out of town guys sure think you're real keen Think all of us boys here are homespun and green But that's wrong my friend so get this through your head We're tough and we're Texan with necks good and red
So it's Ki yi yippie yi yi You long hairs are sure gonna die Our American home was clean till you came And kids still respected the president's name
And the eagle still flew in the sky Hearts filled with national pride Then you came along with your drug-crazy songs Goddamit you're all gonna die
How dare you sit there and drink all our beer Oh it's made for us workers who sweat spit and swear The minds of our daughters are poisoned by you With your communistic politics and them negro blues
Well I'm gonna quit talking and take action now Run all of you fairies clean out of this town Oh I'm dog tired of watching you mess up our lives Spending the summertime naturally high
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KristiMidocean
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746734 - 02/07/05 05:29 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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NO but it is a happy place to be so many people here are positive! Hippies or not the people are great!
ONE WORLD ONE LOVE
giggles!
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mikl
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: PawPaw]
#3746737 - 02/07/05 05:30 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awww, Paw that song makes me want to cry for you.
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mikl
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Do I look like a hippie?
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MOTH
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PAW!!! Full of lyrics today, hehe.
Okay, the main question I'd like to ask now:
Is there ever a war worth fighting for? (i.e: what sort of war would you feel compelled to fight in?)
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KristiMidocean
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746795 - 02/07/05 05:36 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mik you dont look like a hippi! not at all hey ellemy i didnt know that what i said eariler that you took it like a bad thing i didnt mean it like that! Im sorry!!! Ill have to tell you later what i meant! please forgive me! I LOVE YOU GIRL YOU KNOW THAT!
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blacksabbathrulz
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Re: Can hippies be violent? [Re: MOTH]
#3746799 - 02/07/05 05:37 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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EllemyshShade said: PAW!!! Full of lyrics today, hehe.
Okay, the main question I'd like to ask now:
Is there ever a war worth fighting for? (i.e: what sort of war would you feel compelled to fight in?)
Yes. WW2, amongst others.
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