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Fruiting Speed *added piccy*
    #3697056 - 01/29/05 07:30 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hello fellow shroomers,

The Q:
Do higher temperatures (>75F) and long periods of light (>16 hours a day) affect the speed of fruiting?

If so can it be that a high growhtspeed can give stretched mushrooms?

I ask because:
- I had B+ fruiting on cake
* 16 hours light
* temps between 66 and 76
* Rather fat massive fruits.

- From same syringe B+ I spawned WBS to straw
* 16+ hours light
* temps between 68 and 80.
* longer fruits with thinner stems
* from pins (started in darkness of 86F incubator!!) to veil breaking: 4 days.

They where both fruited in the same PMP. Was also wondering if HIGH RH has effect on form of fruits and speed of fruiting... (Since PMP is HIGH RH)

Thanks a lot for any enlightments. :sun:

MF

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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3697088 - 01/29/05 07:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I would take a guess that since straw cased is a more efficeint method of fruiting you get a better pins/area ratio. Thats why the stems are thinner and pins generally smaller becasue the nuts and water are more spread out in a casing and more centralized on a cake. (ya know, like those big clumps of pins out of a very few places on a cake compared the spread of well cased straw bulk.)

Just my guess

I'm also wondering about the RH people use. I read people usually say like %92 is supposed too be optimal but at 98-99% throughout the process and my pinsets are pretty equal.


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #3697191 - 01/29/05 08:33 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'd say it probably has more to do with substrate, water content, and humidity more than heat. I could be wrong but thats just my guess.


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3697230 - 01/29/05 08:48 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

In thise CASE I am talking casings in HALF PINTS. The same as I make my cakes in.
They take part in their own rescue progam! :lol: Rescue from the green mold! :mad:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3676228/an/0/page/0

The pinset is not that even and I have clusters. But my goal was not high yield, just to fruit some B+ from the contaminated project.

Maybe cause the fruiting surface IS smaller then a cake has something to do with it?



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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3697647 - 01/29/05 11:37 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

SHit the biggest mushrooms broke of at the feet when I was taking another pick this afternoon.. I harvested that cluster now (upper left at the pic)

Few hours later:


Already 7 inch long! I think they may grow up to 8 inch.

Straw has now officially beaten BRF for the lengt. The stem is thinner but more massive then the hollow stem on the cake.


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3697681 - 01/29/05 11:44 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

How big are you gonna let get before harvest? Just after the veil breaks or may be wait a lil bit longer?


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3697703 - 01/29/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I wait a bit longer! Make some sporeprints, they still grow amazingly after veil has broken as well, so....

Proof that it is better to harvest just after breaking of veil has never come to my eyes! :laugh:

But as I said, by accident I harvested 3 already.

Man how I love them :heart:, they are so beautifull.


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3698340 - 01/29/05 02:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It could be the substrate playing a part but IME high temps and excess light=faster growth, skinnier mushrooms, more aborts. Low temps and lots of darkness=slower growth, bigger, thicker mushrooms. I think what your seeing here is a substrate change more then anything though because your varibles are slight. The varibles are making a difference though...all varibles seem to play a part in things. What parts are the questions. Also I havnt found rh to be a factor on growth speed, but certainly a factor in the size/thickness of the mushrooms.

This is only speaking of post pinning too...temps are better lower, light is good on for 18 hours a day and I like humidity lower as well...after pinning it changes. Temps I can't change...but humidity goes back up to almost slightly foggy and lights only come on like 4 hours then off for 24 or some such deal. I have casings at different stages at all times and 3 different lights so sometimes one lights on and ones off ect. I keep them in the dark as much as possible and turn on all the lights by hand (timers are to impersonal) as needed and point them in the direction of the shelf/shelves that need it. I give casings not pinning lots of light but other casings often only get backlightighting from those lights and their own light occasionally.


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3698516 - 01/29/05 03:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

MushroomFriend said:
Proof that it is better to harvest just after breaking of veil has never come to my eyes! :laugh:





They say that the mushroom stops producing its magic vitamins when the veil breaks, so it'll become slightly less potent as it gets bigger.


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: LanceArmstrong]
    #3698597 - 01/29/05 03:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They also say that the bluing n your mushrooms is arsenic and you cant dry them using heat. Do you believe everything they say?


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3698739 - 01/29/05 04:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ok cool, thanks for your comments SMR.

So I was in right direction thinking that 18 hours of light and high temps gives a speedy growth. Thus thinner mushrooms but taller.

You know my tub is transparant and a few meters away from me. The lights are on when sun rises. And are off when I go to sleep! Must find some workaround.
Temp I fixed, its 74 now, but a few days ago I was cold so it was at 80.......

:thanx:

MF


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Re: Fruiting Speed [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3698743 - 01/29/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They say a lot, but I dont buy rumors! :laugh:


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