zerodefect said:

so just for further informational purposes, how long would be considered too long to wait? because i am also using just 2 tubs as a water incubator for my jars and i was really having a difficult time determining the temp inside the incubator. the temp was reading 90 degrees right on the bottom where the jars were sitting and it was 80 degrees on the top so i just moved the jars on the second level of my tub (dual layered tub). now i read that the jars usually retain heat and are about 5 degrees warmer then ambient temp so thats should be perfect. now my jars have been incubating for about 8 days now and there is no sign of mycelium at all in my orissas. i also have 4 jars of eq from a liquid mycelium and they are about halfway colonized already. the ones from the spore solution tho have no signs of life at all. is that still normal? how long should i wait before i try again? there is no contamination at all and the substrate is all from the same batch so it must me good. thanks alot for any help

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That 90 degrees you mentioned is a tad high , nothing that will be harmfull , just a tad high . That tub and tub thing is a tough setup to get an even ambient temp IMHO , try stirring the water several times a day to get a more even distribution of temp (ambient temp) , that or put in a shelf that rases the jars into a more even area of the water . The temp at surface is lower due to evaporation of water at the surface , and down lower higher due to this is where your heater is at , I assume .
Glad I was of some help , I am sort of new here at the shroomery 
Waiting 10 days , does not mean you will see signs for sure , just a good time frain to go by . If after 30 days you see nothing , do the smell test , if all smells and looks good , question spore viability .
Yes is normal for liquid culture to be faster than spore solution inocs . So again PATIENCE grasshopper !

jaham said:

i have spotted a quarter size of green mold and the tub in tub setup i have smells sort of sweet when you open itm but not necesarily bad...i hope that is the grain smelling sweet and not a contam

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Does it almost smell like a fermenting apple ?
If so that is a very bad sign , issolate and wait , pray, and hope !
Healthy cultures etc should smell like mushies .