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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: A quote from William James. [Re: Moonshoe]
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You can keep telling yourself that you're above your own mind, but that doesn't mean that you are. Your desires are both instinctive, and conditioned, and you'd have no desire to overcome the instinctive parts, unless you brain had been conditioned with certain values.


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Re: A quote from William James. [Re: Phluck]
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interesting but im still not sure i agree.

for example on of the most powerfull personality shaping factors in my life was being sent to a conservative, dogmatic, repressive, fascist mennonite school that worshipped order and regulations and dogmatic belief.

My response to that was to become a rebel, a seeker of alternative truths, a shit disturber...

so whereas many people respoinded to that conditioning by becoming drones, i responded in the opposite way.

this to me suggests that although we are all INFLUENCED by our environment, the way in which that influence manifests has to do with something in our unique internal natures...



also, in order for a philosophy to have any value it must in some way transfer into real world action or change. yours could if you accept that once your realize the affect of conditioning on you you can change it, but if you deny that your idea is absolutely useless and effects nothing.


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Re: A quote from William James. [Re: Moonshoe]
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A new quote from William James:
"A man with no philosophy in him is the most inauspicious and unprofitable of all social mates."

Edit: New as in new to this thread, the man is dead, you know.  :wink:


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Edited by TinTree (01/05/05 06:10 PM)

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