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Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS!
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Ok, here's the deal. A couple people from the boards, myself included, have been discussing moving into a house together in Canada - in particular somewhere around the Vancouver area of BC.

We don't have any final dates set up yet, nor do we have a very good grasp on exactly what we're doing.

Right now, I personally have plans to be contacting immigration and trying to set things up for myself in the next month. I'd like to be in Canada by the beginning / middle of spring. I will be living in Seattle for the first quarter of '05, and travelling to Canada occasionally on the weekends and trying to get a grip on the whole place.

Basically, I have a couple questions for you all:

1) Is anyone else available and/or interested in moving to Canada in '05?
2) Does anyone have any experience immigrating to Canada?
3) Does anyone have tips for the Canada-hopefuls already planning this strange and optimistic adventure?

I hope to hear from a LOT of you in this thread, and if you're interested please let me know! I'm just trying to get this monster of a project off the ground.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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damn man.. I'm seriously setting my heart on moving to canada.. but I don't see it realistically happening until fall 2005 at least. Or at least after festival season :wink:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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Dude, that is awesome of you..if i wasn't in the middle of college, I would definitely take you up on that offer, but alas, I'm stuck here for another two years.  But, I am right on the interstate to Seattle (literally, my house is 45 seconds from the interstate), about 8 hours away, so if you need a place to crash on your way out, or just want to stop and smoke a bowl, let me know. Good luck on your journeys! :smile:

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Or at least after festival season :wink:



Elll yeah, Adamist and I have been contemplating this idea for a while now.  We are very interested, but I can literally only speak for myself.  I wouldn't realistically be able to be there until after the National Rainbow Gathering :wink:  I love priorites!


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A plethora of music aspirations control my temptations of future revelations beyond "now". The percussion, and the heart beat of my love and devotion. The rhythm goes beyond, prying into the third eye, releasing the creativity held so far inside. The melodicies, through the out of tune pianos and broken classical guitars...there lies a beauty. A beauty as prevelent as the fire inside. To release these energies is pure ecstacy, to deveop these gifts is sacred. The vocality, so pure as can be, shying away from herself, lies within me. For the underlying serenitity, this is what I live for. I plea for harmony, and nothing more. Music equals love. Creation of love leads to the procreativity of the World, and it's spirals and puddles prevailing.

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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yeah gotta have your priorities straight...:grin:

but jonny.. keep us informed.. I want to know everything about moving to canada so I can be prepared when I'm ready


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
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Ares & Shroomism: I'm sure if there's a house to be got in Canada, the couple of us going could afford rent for a few months until after festival season.. then you could come up and have a house waiting for you :smile2:

Hendostan: I'll hopefully be in Seattle by the end of January. We'll have to keep in contact once it gets closer to my moving time, so we can meet up. :smile:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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jonnywax said:
Ares & Shroomism: I'm sure if there's a house to be got in Canada, the couple of us going could afford rent for a few months until after festival season.. then you could come up and have a house waiting for you :smile2:




Definitely.  i like the sounds of that.  And don't worry, Adamist will be hittin up this thread before ya know it.  Canada and him are like peas and fockers.


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A plethora of music aspirations control my temptations of future revelations beyond "now". The percussion, and the heart beat of my love and devotion. The rhythm goes beyond, prying into the third eye, releasing the creativity held so far inside. The melodicies, through the out of tune pianos and broken classical guitars...there lies a beauty. A beauty as prevelent as the fire inside. To release these energies is pure ecstacy, to deveop these gifts is sacred. The vocality, so pure as can be, shying away from herself, lies within me. For the underlying serenitity, this is what I live for. I plea for harmony, and nothing more. Music equals love. Creation of love leads to the procreativity of the World, and it's spirals and puddles prevailing.

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
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Good :thumbup: The more people in this thread the merrier.

I can only speak for myself too, as you said earlier, but I can always hope that everything will work out in the end. I'll be doing my part, I know that much!


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
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That sounds quite good to me too.. the main thing I'm worried about is

1) Crossing the border
2) Getting a job once across the border

Any information you can provide to alleviate my fears is appreciated


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Shroomism]
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I live in Canada.

If you're planning on renting, etc... you're probably going to want to spend a bunch of time studying this site:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/

Which is the Canadian immigration site.

I have a friend who hitchhikes out to BC most summers, and he spends time working on farms and such in the valley. There are a lot of people who do this kind of thing, and he apparently has a directory of farmers who are willing to take people in. They don't all pay money, many of them will feed and house you in exchange for your work. This probably isn't a good long term option, as its seasonal.

Also, there are apparently a bunch of places that will pay you decently to help harvest marijuana crops. Doing jobs such as trimming, drying, etc... but you'll certainly need to network and make various friends to find a job like this.

If I recognize your name, and you seem like good folk, you can certainly spend a few days at my place in Toronto.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Shroomism]
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I'm not sure what kind of troubles you could run into crossing the border.. and as for getting a job once there, that's the kind of information I'd like to get from people who've done this before, or know about it.

As far as I can gather from the Canadian Immigration website, to get a work permit someone must first offer you a job. Now, I don't see how it would be possible for all citizens to get a job before entering the country, so I'm assuming it's less challenging to get a temporary residency card, then apply for jobs (in the normal manner of asking for an application, filling it out, etc), then if you get a callback, that's considered being offered a job, and you can go get your work permit. Once you've got that, you can work in Canada legally.

Someone please correct me if I'm way off. That's one of my reasons for this thread.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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Crossing the border for a visit is easy. You might get searched, but that's not a problem if you don't bring things with you that you shouldn't. (Pot is cheaper, and easier to find up here in most places, you DON'T need to bring your own).

I'm not sure how things work for long stays or for moving here.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Phluck]
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Have fun man, and don't bring anything illegal with you when across the border. They will do a hardcore search of your vehicle. I found out the hard way and am currently banned from Canada. :thumbdown:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Cubieman420]
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Thats rough dude.. I won't be bringing anything illegal with me though, that's for sure.

btw, If you're not doing anything this weekend you should PM me.. if you feel like hanging out I think some friends and I are getting together for a smoke-out :tongue:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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I live in Canada. I plan on moving to BC.

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
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Oh yeah? When? :wink:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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I've been thinking about moving to Canada too, but i'm sticking around until at least festival season is over too.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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I'm going! :smile:

As Shroomism said, Fall '05 is what it's looking like from  here.

But who knows? Anything can happen.

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Adamist]
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You guys should PM me if you get any plans going on for Canada..

I'll keep in contact with the three of you as well, and if I find out any useful info about Canada, I'll let you know.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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Don't move to Vancouver, too much rain, too much trafic... move to the Okanagan, preferably Kelowna B.C. hot summers, mild winters, good boaring, wicked lakes.. everything ya need..

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Cenebite]
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Quote:
2) Does anyone have any experience immigrating to Canada?




:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I don't know why, but that phrase sounds hilarious! :rotfl: :rotfl:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Cenebite]
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Kelowna huh? Well all I really had plans for was moving to somewhere around Vancouver.. I'd actually like to avoid that city.. too big.

Is Kelowna an expensive place to live? It looks beautiful!


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Cenebite]
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Don't move to Vancouver, too much rain, too much trafic... move to the Okanagan, preferably Kelowna B.C. hot summers, mild winters, good boaring, wicked lakes.. everything ya need..

That all depends on what you like. Some people like big cities.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: ld50negative1]
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Quiet you! I meant people on the board who read this post..  :tongue2:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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hey johnny im down, im supposed to be working in canada this summer planting trees if everything works out


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: ZippoZ]
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That'd be awesome zippoz :grin:

You know where in Canada you're supposed to be working, though?


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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if ya got any specific questions i can try to ask.  if your lookign to rent here is one of teh bigger papers online that will help ya out.
http://www.buysell.com/class.asp?subclass=9&id=34&r=9&i=485

kelowna is beautifull but in my opinion is kinda far away from most things.  housing is risign very fast there, but it is everywhere in bc....its rising the fastest according to our local news station.

work is easyish to find depending on your experience.  what have you guys done before?  and have you got references?  you can get a job NO problem at shitty places liek mcdonalds.  also keep in mind minimum wage is $8 an hour.  so if you have 2+ people working minimum wage jobs you shoul dbe able to get by.  my sister is in downtown on her own and makes 11 somthing and gets by plus going to university.  its all about budsgeting.

zippoz, for what its worth i wouldnt come up in teh winter.  tree planting can make you tons of cash but it really sucks ass in teh winter.  ive only been once further north and my other sister has doen tons.  good pay if your able to plant lots.

also if your in vancouver cars will not be needed.  as much as people bitch about the transit (bus) it is rather good.

there is a HUGE construction boom going on so if thats your feild expect 20-25 hour unless your lucky enough to have some sort of specialty trade or luck out with a good comapny.  most anyone can get a job as a labourer which is usually 12 hour.

if any of you want me to check the newspapers for anything let me know :smile:  good luck.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: kadakuda]
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Hey thanks for the tips kadakuda :smile:

I figured Kelowna would probably be kind of expensive. It looks really nice, though.

I don't really have any particular skills, and I'd just like to get a job working food service (hopefully staying away from fast food joints tho), or doing just data entry intro jobs somewhere. I don't know how the opportunities for that kinda stuff are, but it's all I'd need for a while..

And I'm pretty sure zippoz said he'd be going up next summer, not this winter. :wink:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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oh, ya he did :smile:  missed that.

you shouldnt have any trouble getting those jobs.  but seriously save yourself the hassle and get your food safe certificate.  or whatever the equivelant is down there.  the other thing that helps incredibly is having your first aid cert.  you would be suprised how many employers will pick you if you have that.  its a one day course and like $80 here at the college.  small price for a fast job.

in food industry things like your thinking expect $8 an hour and tips, if your a waiter/ess.

also check that link i gave you for help wanted adds.  give you an idea.  closer to the date if your still coming up for sure pm me and i can scan some of the newspapers that arent on teh net for job lsitings if you need.  nothign sucks mroe than moving somewhere with no job ready.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: kadakuda]
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Right on, that sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Thanks for offering to look through ads for me.. what a cool place the Shroomery is :thumbup:

If anyone's got any more city suggestions for someone looking to move to BC, please add them  :stoned:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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southern vancouver island. outskirts of victoria can be pretty cheap and its beautifull here. place to be if outdoors is your game. this is where i am, love it here. i couldnt live anywhere else i dont think.

outskirts of vancouver can be pretty cheap as well. its all prefernce.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: kadakuda]
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Victoria is a kick ass city too!
:thumbup:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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I would like to visit sometime soon, I always wanted to go to northern Washington and Oregon anyway...to go to a neutral country..would be me yep yes ser eee I tell U what, dheurrr!! :imwithstupid:

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Skunk420]
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no doot aboot it. come on up and visit eh.

victory is cool, but it doesnt really offer teh big city feel some people like. its more of a small city no sky scrapers and landscaping in most palces. if that gives any indication.

heres soem links i got on favourites.

Bus system. http://www.bctransit.com/


Maps, moreos if your into outdoor activities (hiking, hunting, off roading etc). http://maps.gov.bc.ca/

http://www.vancouverisland.com/

rest is pretty much camping/hiking stuff.

where abouts are you moving from if i may ask.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: kadakuda]
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kadakuda said:
where abouts are you moving from if i may ask.




Nebraska, USA.

As I've said though, I'll be in Seattle mid-way for a while, so.. I guess technically I'm moving from Washington to BC.

Thanks for the suggestions btw :smile:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: kadakuda]
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I will visit sometome soon, belive me, I will be saving up for a big vacation, it might take me a a little while to save up, but I will..Yehaaa!! north is where it is at!

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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uh.... I live in seattle..... hit me up when you wanna smoke a bowl or something....

*head melts into spirals of red and yellow wax*

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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hehe nice useful thread. I got another problem, i'm a student here in toronto now but my education will finish this summer if I dont fail. I either will look for job right after, or if I cant find, maybe go to the montreal area(where I can maybe learn french).


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Turd]
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will do turd :grin:

@banj: keep us updated on your adventures :thumbup:


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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Hey Johnny,
I am serious about moving in early '05. Have been doing my homework too.
I am split so far tho :/
I am inclined, especially since the career path I want to take leads  to the PNW, BC is where I see myself landing, I hope.
I am well read up about nationwide jobs and housing available.
As it is comming down, housing seems to be the biggest deal.
My Belle wants to hit Buffalo before going on. And even now, it is looking more like FL at this point  :nut:
(it is more organized than it looks, hehe)
Anyhoo, housing,
I shied away from the pnw right first off. Even tho my career route goes thata way, I don't know anybody, + must make a trip to see the place,  make an interview, hmmm.
I dunno yet, lessee where this goes.
O yeah, one more thing, the shroomerite community has a definite and permanent influence on my life decisions  :grin: :heart:
:mushroom2:
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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: LouiseLouise]
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well i woke up this morning and walked downtown to pick up the new weekly independent...lo and behold, the cover story was all about becoming a canadian citizen! i considered this a sign and thought i'd give you the link:
http://www.missoulanews.com/News/News.asp?no=4550

there is a lot of good information, enjoy! :grin:

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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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I know one province in Canada will pay you to move there and have Children, I forget if it is Quebec or what? But they give you more money per each child you have, and it is in the thousands of dollars, Canadian dollars of course.


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: lukeboots]
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I prefer to live in nature (read: the forest) but not too far from babylon (read: the city)


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Re: Moving to Canada - Calling Shroomerites - SERIOUS! [Re: Shroomism]
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I suggest immigrating to Quebec. People are nice & friendly, more openminded too. Plus you'll get to learn a new language !
Isnt that nice :grin:

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