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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: fungophiliac]
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UC-Berkely also has a mycology graduate program. Tom Volk told me he sent an undergrad of his there.

Penn State is probably the leading eastern mycology school or possibly side by side with UW Madison.

EIU is in Charleston, less than fifty miles from me. The head of the Bio dept is a mycologist and I talk to a mycology grad student everyonce and a while. Charleston is really small. I mean really really small. But if you like the country and you are good at finding cool people to be friendly, it'd be perfect. There are thousands of acres of woodlands within an hour of EIU.

Incidentally, I was told that Fort Collins has a horticulture degree as well.

Edited by YidakiMan (01/17/05 06:32 PM)

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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: YidakiMan]
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oh yeah berkely is doing mostly tree pathogens due to the sudden oak death syndrome. myco-remediation and such. didnt necassarily want to do that for the rest of my life.

its nice to know of the others though. i hope to get accepted to arcata in a few years, but if i dint its nice to know the options.


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: fungophiliac]
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I've been a undergrad major in just about every building on campus. Last semester, I tried biology. I figured I'd try out mycology on the "academic" level. To cut a bad story short, I wish you the best of luck. But to be honest if you are majoring or did major in biology and are NOT a pre-med, well then you are just plain out of your mind.

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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: YidakiMan]
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Maybe it was just the school I am at, I found the biology department sadly lacking and unwilling in the kingdom mycota. Just as any bioclass we overviewed all the kingdoms. We spent all of 20 minutes on the ENTIRE kingdom Mycota and the lecture was done by the undergrad assistant (a junior). If I had corrected her on every single error I could have kept the class there all day long. But I knew that wasn't in the best interest of class. They are there to mindlessly swallow info. Don't think just memorize. I think that was the day I gave up on the department.

I even offered my culture collection, they turned it down.

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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: YidakiMan]
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amazing. dont let me go there. salt lake city is all premed and it is crazy. luckily the community college has some good botanists and microbiologists that i will bend the lectrure to suit my needs when i feel it is right. other than that there are a few mycology programs and humbolt state for instance teaches a few classes devoted to mycology i n the upper levels. anyhoot ive got a 3.5 gpa so far and i get paid for school so how can i turn down math and chemistry for money. especially when i talk to my botany teacher about drugs (in a round about way) heh heh


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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$3/lb? That seems like an extremely low amount for a quality product. In our area even crappy Oysters are retailing for about $18/lb. An acquaintance of mine is starting up a mushroom business and I think the stores were willing to give him around $7-9/lb.

Then again your market might be more saturated than the ones in our area.


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: Alkaloids]
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Ay bud! Whats new. We arnt in it for the money we just do it to kill time.

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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: Fluxburn]
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Fluxburn said:
Wow, so if you were just suppling a few restraunts or whatever wouldn't you need less that 100 pounds a month? I couldn't image making that much, but I could image 20 pounds a month.


actually i take back what i said earlier. you may be able to find one restaraunt that will accept 5 lbs every friday. that makes about 20 lbs a month. that way they can have a weekly special featuring your mushrooms. but again you wil ahve to look at the market in your area yourself.


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: fungophiliac]
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you can talk about where to sell your product until your blue in the face but ole-fashioned legwork is the only way your going to truly find your outlets.

diversity is k3y.

i sell at farmer's markets, nice restaurants, average restaurants, caterers, and grocers.

restaurants tend to pay better prices for lackluster product... i mean they are chopping and cooking, they really don't care what it looks like on the shelf.

my average restaurants/vendors buy up my dried product

caterers and grocers want pretty product.

i get the most profit at the market. assuming good weather, i move most of my product there. it also acts as my meeting grounds to make connections to even more outlets.

all of my outlets had to be found, searched out, negotitated, and maintained. believe me. commercial mushroom production is 33% cultivation and 66% marketing.


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: debianlinux]
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debianlinux said:
commercial mushroom production is 33% cultivation and 66% marketing.


Nicely put  :thumbup:


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: pshawny]
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<-----restaurants tend to pay better prices for lackluster product... i mean they are chopping and cooking, they really don't care what it looks like on the shelf.

thats nice to know. thank you.


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: fungophiliac]
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map out a plan of what you're going to do every step of the way from the first culture to delivering the product. The better you have it planned out the more likely you will be to succeed.

Here's some answers to a few of your questions from my perspective.

Oysters and Lion's mane will grow well in the same room. I haven't anything other than shiitake in the room with them, and that doesn't work well, you either end up with shii blocks covered with trich or dried out oysters/lion's mane.

Oysters are the most profitable to grow small scale for the cost of supplies and amount of work involved.

Humidifiers are as clean as the room they're in, as clean as you keep them. They aren't inherently dirty.

I haven't tried it but I think using a swamp cooler inside your house would be disasterous.

Here's a link to various USDA reports on wholesale prices. Alot of the major US markets are covered. http://www.produce1.com/producemarkets.htm

To have effective constant rotation you'll need at least 4 growrooms and space to incubate the columns. You'll either need to be able to switch your growspace to the correct parameters for incubating, or have a dedicated incubation room. I personally wouldn't advise growing inside the house, especially a house you don't own. Are the floors wood? Plastic sheeting will not contain the water, I can guarantee you will destroy the floor if it's wood, Water's gonna find it's way to the lowest spot :wink: If you do decide to grow inside the house, use tyvek, not plastic sheeting. It costs 2-3 times as much as plastic sheeting but it holds the moisture while allowing gas exchange.

The restaurants I sell to all buy 20-30 lbs a week, and the grocery stores I sell to buy 15-20. Try to find a produce broker,look in the yellow pages under produce. I have a 200 lb a week customer I found that way  :wink:

Familiarize yourself with the 2001(soon to be 2005) food code :wink:

Edited by brainbreath (02/01/05 05:50 AM)

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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: brainbreath]
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i figured it out. ill post pictures as soon as it is setup. be on the lookout for a nice commercial grow, low-tek, tek


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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: fungophiliac]
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Hey brainbreath,
can you explain how to divide up the fruiting space in order to get constant rotation?

Do you tally up total time from pinhead initation til the block is spent (or at least moved outside), then divide by four? Fill a quadrant on that interval?

Edited by YidakiMan (02/20/05 04:06 PM)

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Re: small scale commercial production questions [Re: YidakiMan]
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that is similar to what i am doing. except 4 is not a fixed value but a variable depending on how long the fruiting cycle is. i figure 1 harvest a week is enough to feed a market. although if you get a good buyer you may be able to negotiate higher prices for quicker harvests. it depends on how concerned they are about freshness.


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