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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: Anno]
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yeah, but you also use diffuse natural light and all sorts of other things anno. you blow my mind.


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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
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Then tell me why cold shocking stimulates fruiting other than simulating the frosts of winter, there is no other reason that the myc would all of a sudden respond to cold temperatures. I don't buy it.

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: spliffmasta]
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Its just that it tells it when its time to grow..they dont grow in winter but in fall..places like florida where winter really isnt winter..its like fall all winter. I elieve fall has optimal fresh air, light and humidity..this is why shrooms like to pin then and they developed another trigger (temp) to tell it when fall comes.

This is why they fruit from a 10 degree temp drop, not in a huge temp drop. Cold shocking is a little different since your shocking it..that kind of is saying hey winters comming..your late..

Also and probably mainly..mycelium thrives in warm temps..this is where it grows. Cold temps stop the myc from growing..not start the mushrooms fruiting..its the myc stopping growing that makes the mushrooms fruit..

These are just theories but would all make since as to why cold shocking stimulates fruiting other then simulating the frosts of winter..perhaps some more explaining by those who understand mushrooms better then I (like anno) could occur..


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
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Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: scatmanrav]
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Hrmmm, I'm not necessarily disputing what anyone's saying, I just don't understand, nor can think of any reason why cold shocking does what it does if it weren't to simulate the colder temperatures in nature.

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: scatmanrav]
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or how about cold shocking simulates night. temps drop at night. this seems very feesable to me.


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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: lemon_lw]
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Ahh, good one, I could see that. Mushrooms in the wild fruit magically over night don't they.

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: spliffmasta]
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It is to simulate the colder temps in nature..but its not to simulate WINTER..I think thats the point Anno was talking.

I know your just looking for reasoning..I'm just explaining it the best I understand it..nightfall could play a part too..

I however dont cold shock my casings either as I notice no difference. A 10 degree drop is plenty for cubes becasue the environment they grow in, this is all they get when they do pop up. I even run a warm fruiting chamber (near 80, if no 80 sometimes over) since no way to cool it..I used to cold shock after a few days incubation but I've found even better is to fruit directly after casing with no incubation. Some may want to incubate for a day or two but earlier iniation of pinning should be plenty without a cold shock.

However we are talking cakes here..cakes should be dunked prior to every flush and if your going to dunk a cake and have room in your fridge then I do believe its stupid not to cold shock them at the same time..gotta store then somewhere..unless maybe you have another reason (dont want them to be seen whatever).


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: scatmanrav]
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i was being mean. and im sorry


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Edited by lemon_lw (12/10/04 02:27 PM)

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: lemon_lw]
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Have you ever been picking lemon..I'm pretty sure he was being serious because mushrooms do appear almost overnight in the wild. Relax a bit :smile:


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: scatmanrav]
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ok ill take it bqack im very sorry spliff im just up tight today. im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry ill delete my mean post. bu tthe way you worded it "fruit MAGICALLY overnight" does seem like your talking shit.


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In the belly of the Leviathan, one can either despair and perish, or be cheerful and persevere.-Dean Koontz

Edited by lemon_lw (12/10/04 02:29 PM)

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: lemon_lw]
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It happens to the best of us..I've certainly given my fair share of less then fair bitching to people..


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: scatmanrav]
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thanks for cathing that for me scat. yeah i need to start calming down before the night comes so i can have a good trip


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Re: Do you cold shock your cakes or not? [Re: lemon_lw]
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I dont coldshock but dunk outside incubator at roomtemperature (about between 65-71F in that room night-day).

They (pf classic) pinned after 4 days. (which is...... 2DAY!!!!!!! :lol:)


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