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ymhrswrider
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Anyone grown Peyote?
#3447147 - 12/04/04 06:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just wondering how hard it is to grow this. Does anyone have a link to a site like this for Peyote? Anyone have any advise?
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: ymhrswrider]
#3447192 - 12/04/04 07:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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i hear it takes decades.
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: ]
#3447196 - 12/04/04 07:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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go to the ethnobotanical garden and ask people there. I know there are alot of people on the site with peyotl experience =D
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: ymhrswrider]
#3449069 - 12/05/04 07:23 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: ]
#3450409 - 12/05/04 02:28 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kottonmouth said: i hear it takes decades.
Yes it takes many years, but they are very easy to grow. It's a cactus, so it thrives on neglect. The biggest problem with peyote is, that by the time they're big enough to eat, you've grown attached to them and you don't want to cut them down.
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Lifenergy
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: koppie]
#3450488 - 12/05/04 02:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are easy to grow, like has been said, but if you are the impatient type, you would be better suited with San Pedro, or something similar. Checking your peyote everyday for progress will lead to a lot of dissapointment. They do make good friends to have around, though.
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: Lifenergy]
#3452306 - 12/05/04 10:26 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get some pedro logs growing then get some peyote seeds going and graft some buttons onto the pedros.
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Hooty
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: Gr0wer]
#3452339 - 12/05/04 10:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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do some research on pereskiopsis as a grafting stock.
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Re: Anyone grown Peyote? [Re: Gr0wer]
#3452353 - 12/05/04 10:32 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doesn't mescaline take a good while to acumulate? wouldn't trying to rush it by grafting weaken your babies?
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If you wanted to actually consume them, you'd have to degraft them of course. After a long while you'll want to degraft them anyway.
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mr_minds_eye
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I have heard people say that you can do that, but wouldn't a button grown for 15 years as is be better than a button grown on top of a pedro for lets say 5 and then left rooted for 2?
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Todcasil
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grow one for each of your children. give it to them on their 18th birthdays.
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Hooty
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Doesn't mescaline take a good while to acumulate? wouldn't trying to rush it by grafting weaken your babies?
I've read speculation of such, but as far as I know there's not any solid evidence or study showing that grafted peyote is weaker than rooted ungrafted peyote... All the evidence I've seen is anecdotal, and in the world of ethnobotanicals it's sometimes unwise to take anecdotal information as fact. Whether it's accurate in this particular case, I don't know... The general idea is that the mescaline content increases when the plant is stressed because from an evolutionary standpoint it seems that mescaline was developed in certain cacti to keep things that might eat it at bay. During times of stress, for instance drought (we're talking desert so of course I mean drought in the sense that there's even less rainfall than the already meager anual average), desert animals are much more likely to consume things the wouldn't normally consume in search of food. Thus mescaline content is increased during times of drought or during other stressful situations. The idea is that when growing under optimal conditions, such as those experienced in a graft, the cactus produces less mescalin than it would otherwise do in times of stress. This is all very logical of course. Still I haven't personally seen a study, and though I'm not refuting it's possible accuracy, I just think it's better to not assume. My main point of contention would be that although mescaline content is increased in times of stress, I'm not sure it would necissarily be significantly lower in a graft than during in optimal (or optimal in comparison to the harsh environment of a desert) growing conditions that a rooted peyote would experience in the care of a cacti cultivators garden. Another theory, though even less plausible in my opinion, is that the growth of the cactus is increased in such a way that the percentage of total mass that the mescaline makes up would be lowered because of the quickly increased total mass of the plant. This seems very unlikely to me, however, because this would be one of the few instances in the plant world, that I'm aware of, that a natural process within the plant (in this case the production of mescaline) wouldn't increase proportionally with the growth of the plant. I would, however, be very interested if anyone knows of a study or credible evidence that could shed some light on this subject for certain in one direction or another.
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I put up a picture of a Lophophora that was grafted to a Pereskiopsis under the heading "Sucessful Grafts". You might want to look at it.
If you're going to grow Peyote which is a type of Lophophora, this method will speed things up for you.
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