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peyote graph from seeds
    #2263284 - 01/22/04 06:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hello,

I was blessed with some L. williamsii's seeds.  This is my first time working with seeds. as you understand these seeds are very important to me and I want to make sure everyone survives.  I am going to use different root stocks for the seeds. I figure 6 san pedro stocks, 6 P. torchs, 6 Perskopsis should do it. I figure its time to experiement with which root stock grows the best. :tongue:  I will be using 160 watts florals to grow them.( I may switch to HPS in a few months though).

I have una thread saved to help me out. thanks!  una thread


ok, now from what I gather, I need to germinate the seeds for a min. of 2 weeks before graphing them onto the stock.  I heard seeds don't have a good germination rate by themselves. so I find this to be contradicting since I will still have to germinate the seeds before graphing them...

can I graph the seeds without germination first?

I need some good books about cacti too... I have "peyote and other psychoactive cacti"... I want to learn about the anotomy of the cacti... I don't understand what some of the terms you guys use.(ie. scion, areoles)

I also heard great results from the superglue method.. but I don't think I would do this with the seed graphs, right?  that once the cacti has grow enough...


:sun: thank for listening to me.. this is my offical thread so I will update my pictures when the time is ready. :smile::sun:

peace

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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: ]
    #2263618 - 01/22/04 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

good luck zero!
we'll love to see it!


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: ]
    #2264972 - 01/23/04 07:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

First off, not Graph, GRAFT. Aereoles are the places where spines come from, and if the growing tip is ever destroyed, new growth will proceed from the aereoles. Germination is when a green plant first sprouts from the seed...


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: ]
    #2265480 - 01/23/04 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

>>can I graph the seeds without germination first?

got to germinate first, then graft. Not possible to put a seed on top of a rootstock and "graft" it that way.

Scion is the name for the plant specimen that is to be grafted to a rootstock.


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: neuro]
    #2266078 - 01/23/04 04:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

First off, not Graph, GRAFT.




:grin: sorry my bad.. its the graphic design major in me. :wink:

thanks guys!! I understand it better now.  deos anyone have any germination teks they would like to share? and what is your success rate for that tek?


here is my beauty, I named her piper the peyote button. I hope to give her a nice home and treat her well. I hope to have some friends joining her soon. :smile:


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: ]
    #2266830 - 01/23/04 09:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

use some super thrive, it will help with the germination rates ive heard. but i havent really had a bad time with getting peyote to germinate. i have about a 60% germintation ratio. but super thrive has gibberellic acid in it which is naturally occuring in plants.


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: poppy_smirf]
    #2266875 - 01/23/04 10:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

what tek do you use to germinate the seeds? soak them.. then plant?


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    #2266884 - 01/23/04 10:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

my friend easily germs them in warm temps and high humidity. on top of moist sand. works everytime.


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: jojoba]
    #2266894 - 01/23/04 10:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

silica sand? put the seed on top of the sand.. wow I wouldn't have guessed that.

do you use a light when the seed is on the sand? once it germinates, you just follow the rest of una's tek?


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: ]
    #2266991 - 01/23/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wow dude, you got alot of reading to do....

Read  EVERYTHING  :smile:


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2267027 - 01/24/04 12:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah I have alot of reading to do. :tongue:  I think for starters I am going to work with non pyschoactive cati. that way I can get experience under my belt.


I just want a good book to read... I really am not a fan of reading text off the net. (don't get me wrong, I read all the time, but I would like to have a book that I can read at my leisure. :smile: )

so any recommendations? ones that you use?


HarveyWalbanger - thanks man!! I will read this so I can get a better understanding. :smile:


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    #2267086 - 01/24/04 12:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey Zero, do you like mysteries?  The DeVinci Code has a captivating story telling kind of read.  RecoMenDed~ :wink:

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    #2267098 - 01/24/04 12:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thats is anAwasOME pic man! So cool ~ mmmmm need it...

-XFaith


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: XFaithman]
    #2267784 - 01/24/04 09:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

uhm i think he was referring to a cactus book?

i have 'the plantfinders guide to Cacti and other succulents' its a pretty good read. nothing specifically about peyote, but some good cactus basics like growing from seed, cutting and grafting. and about 100 pages of pictures and descriptions of various cacti.

ive also heard good things about this book

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...nce&s=books

again if your jus lookin for the basics. not anything specifically about peyote.

never grown peyote, but hopefully ill be blessed seeds sometime, and i can give it a shot.


~JSlice~


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: ]
    #2268295 - 01/24/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

germination tek

^^ perhaps the easiest for someone who hasn't done it before.


Edited by neuro (01/25/04 10:28 AM)


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: neuro]
    #2270054 - 01/25/04 02:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

neuro the link doesn't work???

it takes me to the shroomery main index page.

angryjslice - thanks! I am going to get that book.. it looks like something taht would be nice to own and study from.


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: ]
    #2271071 - 01/25/04 10:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

now it does... for some reason using the UBB tags did something fucking strange..


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Re: peyote graph from seeds [Re: neuro]
    #2272865 - 01/25/04 11:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks man!! :sun:

its helping out alot.


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