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Alternative to Pressure cooker
    #3447697 - 12/04/04 11:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I don't want to buy a pressure cooker yet. What Alternatives can I do to sterilize my jars? I've been checking the web site and still found nothing.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: michotim002]
    #3447726 - 12/04/04 11:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

you havent checked the website out hard enough. If you're doing PF tek, you dont need a pressure cooker. You may boil your jars.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: derx]
    #3447730 - 12/04/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've been checkign the web site hard


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: michotim002]
    #3447774 - 12/04/04 11:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

So then that means you found out that you can just boil the jars for an hour with a towel under them? I found it with no prob. But w/e, if you want more eleborate Pm me and ill explain how to do it, or Gl on searching the site, later


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: michotim002]
    #3447843 - 12/04/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

PF cakes you can live without PC. Grains, millet, WBS -- you cannot.

If you ever do decide to get a PC.

Buy an All American, the bigger the better.

You will never regret doing so.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: agar]
    #3448014 - 12/05/04 12:36 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I got a Mirro, it's alright, kinda old but not antique, not really new but it gets the job done...and it makes the most badass Cajun Boiled peanuts...Gl


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3448750 - 12/05/04 04:36 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Here is the perfect thing you need:

http://www.mycosupply.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=CANN02

That is what you should use if you dont want to by a PC. Before you buy that one, check out some of those big chain store that take over small towns (ie, walmart, target, kmart). They will probably have them, and you wont have to pay shipping.  It's called a: Canning Pot . They work perfect for Brown Rice Flour. :smile: :smile: :smile:


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: FreshCaps]
    #3448821 - 12/05/04 05:20 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well if u dont want to buy a pressure cooker,
get a proper autoclave :wink:

nah just joking, if u go grains, the only way will be a pressure cooker,
sorry mate.

the thing in the link above u could use to do some pf jars i guess,
but id also suggest sterilizing these.

by the way, whats a 50$ investemtn over a long term?
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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: ohmatic]
    #3449094 - 12/05/04 09:46 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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derx said:
you havent checked the website out hard enough. If you're doing PF tek, you dont need a pressure cooker.




What he said. I have been examining this tek carefully. I want to get a good idea of what xactly boiling is to achieve. I want my first one to go right :x:

QUESTION: On a canner such as the one above, do y'all think that it holds a little bit of pressure, though it is not necessary for steam penetration in canning.
But to use it in pf tek, say maybe even 2 or 3 # can be achieved.?.
It's tried and proven, so, it works.
Peter's gonna tell ya to put a brick on top of it :laugh: He no's about these things  :tongue:

Also, you must, at least to some degree, achieve steam penetration, but avoid condensation at this point. It could destroy your water content.
Is this right?


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3449099 - 12/05/04 09:50 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well u dont really have to worry about ur water content getting screwed much when
u pressure cook jars, they stay allright usually.

anyway, u are right that up to some point, one can use boiling water pots
in order to kill germs on the pftek jars, i wouldnt call that sterilizing though.

anyways, i just know this from what i read about other growers procedure,
id always suggest du to buy a pressure cooker, again, 50$ investment ist that much!
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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: michotim002]
    #3449194 - 12/05/04 10:46 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If you don't have a pressure cooker, then do PF tek.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3449778 - 12/05/04 01:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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QUESTION: On a canner such as the one above, do y'all think that it holds a little bit of pressure...




No. It's just a big cooking pot with a lightweight metal lid and no seal. Max temperature is 212F.

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Also, you must, at least to some degree, achieve steam penetration, but avoid condensation at this point. It could destroy your water content.
Is this right?




Again, no. Your jars should weigh the same before and after being pressure cooked or boiled. There's no need for steam to touch the substrate.

If you are going to boil, make a few extra jars. Then it's no big deal to lose a few. Also, I'd let the prepared jars sit wet for a day before boiling. That lets some of the temperature resistant endospores germinate, after which the heat will croak them.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: ticktock]
    #3450239 - 12/05/04 03:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, I'd let the prepared jars sit wet for a day before boiling. That lets some of the temperature resistant endospores germinate, after which the heat will croak them.





Good tip, ty :thumbup:

And again, isn't it the steam penetrating the substrate that kills the contams?

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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3450854 - 12/05/04 06:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You can do grain without a pressure cooker using fractional sterilization. This might be successful but not as much as a PC.

I know there is some info in the faqs for details.

Basically, you let soak your grain for some time, boil em and repeat these two steps 2 or 3 times.

But hey, buy a PC.

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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3450938 - 12/05/04 07:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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And again, isn't it the steam penetrating the substrate that kills the contams?
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No sir. It's the heat. There should be no steam in your jars.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: ticktock] * 1
    #3450944 - 12/05/04 07:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Doh!

I just called LouiseLouise "sir". Sorry ma'am. (If that's the case.) Hard to tell a setter from a pointer on the internet  :smile:


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: ticktock]
    #3451079 - 12/05/04 08:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, get a PS, my first time I boiled exactly how the tek says, 75% of cakes got contammed, and I was fairly sterile in all my processes.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: deeproots]
    #3451110 - 12/05/04 08:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

4 days ago, I inoculated 16 jars using pf tek that had been sterilized without a PC, i just used a big pot and some water, and right now every single jar has mycelial growth without any contams.


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: zorak]
    #3451560 - 12/05/04 09:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome, I hope it goes well!! Best of luck on your adventure!! :smile: :smile: :smile:


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Re: Alternative to Pressure cooker [Re: FreshCaps]
    #3453564 - 12/06/04 08:31 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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ticktock said:
I just called LouiseLouise "sir". Sorry ma'am. (If that's the case.) Hard to tell a setter from a pointer on the internet




lol, the former :lol:


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