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HillBilly777
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Enhanced O2 growing
#3394553 - 11/21/04 08:29 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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As I was doing some research into scuba diving, particularly NITROX, an enhanced oxygen mixture of air, I got thinking about growing me some gourmet mushrooms. Since mushrooms metabolize 02, I was wondering if one would utilize a tank of oxygen, or an enhanced air mix, like 36%NITROX, to accelerate the growth of one's crop. Has anyone experimented with enhanced oxygen mixtures to speed growth?
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amyloid
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there was a discussion about this before, "co2 respiration" i think was the thread title. if i remember correctly i believe the general consensus was that increasing o2 wouldnt increase metabolization or yeild or speed, because mush dont utilize all the o2 in the air regardless. its like would you expect your body to grow faster if u lived in a o2 rich room? i dont remember anyone talking about nitrox though, why dont u try it out and let me know if it works out?
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Re: Enhanced O2 growing [Re: amyloid]
#3397380 - 11/23/04 08:00 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some pot growers supplement co2 because under super lights that can become the limiting factor. If aired properly, o2 will never be the limiting factor in mush growth.
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Re: Enhanced O2 growing [Re: Tantalus]
#3402904 - 11/24/04 09:24 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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To elaborate further; If I remember correctly, air is about 20% oxygen and around 1% carbon dioxide. The reason O2 won't be a limiting factor in a well ventilated mushroom chamber is because the oxygen requirement is well below 20%, whereas plants can use more than the ~1% CO2 under optimal conditions. Baby_Hitler started the earlier thread about this.
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lesstutrey
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What is nitrox? In diving terminology; any mixture of nitrogen and oxygen, where these two gases represent the major constituents of the gas mix, is termed nitrox. Note that mixes which contain more than trace levels of other gases in addition to nitrogen and oxygen are not nitrox. Air is considered a nitrox mix. Nitrox mixes which are hyperoxic (contain more than 21% oxygen) are variously known as; enriched air, enriched air nitrox (EAN or EANx) or SafeAir *. For the most part, sport divers will only be interested in hyperoxic nitrox mixes. * SafeAir is copyright of ANDI and refers to any nitrox mix with an oxygen percentage between 22% and 50%.
as you can see.. air is already nitrox in diving terminoledgy, so i see no real benefit. maybe a hyperoxic nitrox mixture.. but i don't see how increased levels of nitrogen will help anything....
Edited by lesstutrey (11/24/04 07:56 PM)
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Peterthinks
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Re: Enhanced O2 growing [Re: lesstutrey]
#3405787 - 11/24/04 08:07 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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High pressure O2 rich barometric chambers speed growth. ...food for thought
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Anno
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>To elaborate further; If I remember correctly, air is about 20% oxygen and around 1% carbon dioxide.
Actually carbon dioxide is contained in the air to only about 0,03% or 300 ppm.
As you said, oxygen is not a limiting factor at the fruiting stage at all.
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Re: Enhanced O2 growing [Re: Peterthinks]
#3477631 - 12/10/04 05:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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but is there any research done specifically on their effects on fungi? There was an article in The Journal of General Microbiology from 1966 Vol 45 Pages 17-29 that noted fungi, when placed under 10 atmospheres ceased growing. Granted, this is not o2 rich air, just pressurized every-day air. Just wondering specific results... (by the way, the fungi did continue to grow, when returned to normal atmospheric conditions...)
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