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 tedbundyjr
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 I have nor pressure cooker 
#335798 - 06/06/01 12:30 AM (23 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi
I have no pressure cooker but would like some advice on using a large pan to boil the jars in. i read you should put a towel on the bottom of the pot so as not to let the jars touch the metal. anyone have any success doing it this way to steralize the jars. let me know your tek how you do it.
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Re: I have nor pressure cooker [Re: tedbundyjr]
#335806 - 06/06/01 12:42 AM (23 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've done it in times of need. Take a larg pot, put a wash cloth on the bottom, place as many jars(with tinfoil on the lids) into the pot as can comfortably fit, fill water to the level of 3/4 of the jars. Turn stove on high, put the lid on the pot and leave them in there for at least 1 hour 1 1/2 hours is better though. Leave the lid on throughout cooking, and don't take it off until completely cooled, then innoculate like regular, be prepared for extremely dissapointing contamination ratio's. When I did it I had a 50% contam ratio. Go and buy a Pressure Cooker as soon as you can.
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Re: I have nor pressure cooker [Re: tedbundyjr]
#335817 - 06/06/01 01:07 AM (23 years, 10 months ago) |
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tedjr.. Have you thought about using a microwave tek?
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Re: I have nor pressure cooker [Re: tedbundyjr]
#335892 - 06/06/01 04:28 AM (23 years, 10 months ago) |
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It works just fine. Read up on it at fanaticus.com. The jars are simmered, not boiled on high.
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Re: I have nor pressure cooker [Re: tedbundyjr]
#335950 - 06/06/01 07:18 AM (23 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't have a pressure cooker either. I use the boiling water method. I haven't used the washcloth under it, but now that you mention it, it sounds like a good idea. But when I did it, I boiled the jars twice. The first time I did it for 45 minutes, the next day I did it again for about an hour. I waited hours later when they cooled completely and then innoculated. I didn't have any contams. And as for the microwave teck, eh, I'm not feeling it. I tried it once, and that was enough. I'd just stick with boiling. Pressure cookers are too much money.
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Re: I have nor pressure cooker [Re: Face_Tripper]
#336134 - 06/06/01 11:50 AM (23 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am also curious about the contam ratio using this method. I guess I'll be finding out soon enough though since I just boiled 6 pint jars for 1hr. 45min this past weekend. I did use the cloth at the bottom though it doesnt exactly "sit" there especially when the water starts to boil. One thing though you'll have to play with the water level alittle bit to find a happy medium, too much water and the jars will float around and you dont want that and too little will probably evaporate after a hour and a half or more. I let the water level stand at about 1/4 of the jar and even then the jars still wanted to float around. I fixed this by wedging in a pyrex measuring cup to keep things stable. After almost 2 hrs these jars were extremely hot so use caution when handling and definitely let cool overnight. Also make sure your lids are not screwed on tight and that you have the aluminum foil covering the jars. Now its just wait and hope, its 3 days since innoculating and "I think" i see little areas of colonization, probably just wishing thinking...lol
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Re: I have nor pressure cooker [Re: tedbundyjr]
#336601 - 06/06/01 09:56 PM (23 years, 10 months ago) |
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A spirit in holland says that he has had success with simply boiling the jars and has seen no contams. Boil them as mentioned above in the other posts. One way to keep the jars from floating is to simply set some utensils on top of the jars. Just enough to weight them down slightly. It would be advisable to cook for over an hour on perhaps a medium heat level with the lid on. That method works for PF style jars with a brown rice/vermiculite substrate. I wouldn't suggest trying it with birdseed etc...
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