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Enhancing a casing?
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Would it be a good idea to add more brf and vermiculite for an extra layer of casing?

so the casing would go like this -
Layer 1(bottom) - Vermiculite
Layer 2 - Crumbled Cake(s)
Layer 3 - Brf/Vermiculite (like in cakes, sterilized in p cooker just like you did for cakes)
Layer 4 - Vermiculite

ok... get it? would this help produce more mushrooms? more flushes? and whats the point of having a 9 inch deep casing over a 3 inch casing? In the 9 inch casing you would have more cakes than the 3 inch, of course.... But would this help at all?

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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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If you want to feed the contaminants maybe :laugh:!.. it works for azures and pans sometimes me monkey tinks.. peace good idea never the less....


who told you to put a 9inch casing over 3inches of substrate?!??!?! crazy ... thin as possible for the top verm layer for my monkeys ... works great
"like a Japanese Cowboy or a blind man on skates"Ween
"you must make sure that the lady's pure for the Funky Cold Medina"Tone Loc

Edited by BrownPastures on 06/05/01 08:04 PM.


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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: BrownPastures]
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thats not what i meant about the 9 inch thing.... here let me elaborate and clear things up....

ok... you have a bunch of pf cakes...

you take vermiculite and lay 1 inch in bottom..
fill it up about 8.5 inches of mycelium (crumbled cakes)
then take another layer of .5 inch vermiculite ...

would that produce any more shrooms or flushes or larger shrooms than a casing the same way except only 2 inches of mycelium?

this is all hypothetical, im just wondring the benefits, if any to adding more mycelium to a casing...

Keep Trippin' and Blazin'

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Edited by TripsAreForKids on 06/05/01 08:48 PM.



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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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The nine inches of mycelium would probably give you bigger mushrooms.  Putting the brn rice flwr/verm layer on top of the crumbled cakes is an invitation to disaster.  The casing layer should be nutrient deficient in order to keep contams off of it.  If you had your casing in a 100% contam free environment then it would probably be helpful, but get real, its more work for a 100% contam free environment then it is to just leave a casing with plain verm.

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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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My friend has just starting to experiment with casing
depths. She has had the best results with six inches
of compost/spawn (5:1) and a one inch casing layer.
The casing layer can be removed and a new one added
between flushes to help cut down on contaims. She used
to have a big problem with Dactylium (coweb mold) until
she started tossing the casing layer. Both the compost
and casing are pasturized (not sterilized). Make sure
the spawn is completely innoculated. Any grain or flour
that is not innoculated before being added to the compost
will most likely contaiminate. Let the mycelium/compost
grow under cover until the compost has been grown through
before adding the casing layer. Again, keep covered until
the mycelium is showing in the valleys. Be sure to mist
daily. You want to bring the moisture content of the
casing layer up as the mycelium overtakes the casing. This
information has been stolen from various tek's or books,
and has been proven effective by my friend through trial
and error. From the sound of your post, you are a bit
confused casing in general (duh, hence the post). Read up
as much as you can, and start out with several small trays
rather than one big one. It took my friend two or three
tries to get it correct. Her first disaster cost two trays
with ten pounds of compost in each. Once you get a good
technique that works for you down, then start to increase
your batch size.



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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: Seuss]
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im not at all confused about casing, its simple. I was just wondering if anyone has experimented with the depth of casings...
i dont see how it makes me appear at all confused about casing... i explained casing steps did i not?
Keep Trippin' and Blazin'

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Edited by TripsAreForKids on 06/05/01 10:39 PM.



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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: Seuss]
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Thanks for all the info on casing... I certainly still have questions, and I appreciate you taking time to respond.

Would you please answer some of my q's?

Do I have to mist if I use perilite? If so, it sounds like I will need to mist more as the mycelium grows?

Also, can I use verm and Jiffy Mix for casing if I am using perilite?. Do I have to pasturize (the jiffmix/verm)? If so, how?

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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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me monkey's tink you were interested in putting brown rice in your casing layer... the monkeys also say that you should chilll with the "all knowing" and take advice like a man.... cause if they remember correctly you still have some uncolonized cakes (90-95% )...

"like a Japanese Cowboy or a blind man on skates"Ween
"you must make sure that the lady's pure for the Funky Cold Medina"Tone Loc

Edited by BrownPastures on 06/06/01 12:36 AM.


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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: BrownPastures]
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i am experimentally certain that fruit mass is highly dependent on surface area more than volume...

...and thus concludes my dream. interpretations anyone?:wink:

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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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Yes, we are experienced with substrate depth. One and a half to three inches of COLONIZED substrate.


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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: BrownPastures]
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"From the sound of your post, you are a bit
confused casing in general (duh, hence the post). Read up
as much as you can, "
if i said that to you, you would take to the defense would you not?

Keep Trippin' and Blazin'

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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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Depends on how defensive of a person you are. There are people on these boards, who show inexperience in their previous posts(that are usualy less than 1 or 2 months old)that have hissy fits over *correct* advice. Go figure.

"like a Japanese Cowboy or a blind man on skates"-Ween
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Edited by BrownPastures on 06/06/01 03:15 PM.


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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: auto59009]
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"Poster: auto59009
Subject: Re: Enhancing a casing?

i am experimentally certain that fruit mass is highly dependent on surface area more than volume...

...and thus concludes my dream. interpretations anyone?"


so basicly your saying is that you'll have more massive fruits in a 12x4" casing with a 1 inch colonized substrate than 3 inch colonized substrate in the same size pan.... looks like you need to go back to the lab and do some more experiments... this is a great example of what i'm talking about people...

"like a Japanese Cowboy or a blind man on skates"-Ween
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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: maria420]
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My friend says, Yes, continue misting the casing until pins start to
form. After that, you can continue misting, but try to keep direct water
off the fruit bodies. This can get difficult as the fruit bodies become large
and dense. My friend has never used perlite in a casing layer and has
no information for you there. The post about texture of casing layer being
import is correct. Always "rake" your casing layer after you level it off to
create a "checker board" of little hills and valleys. This seems to give a
larger and more even flush.



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Re: Enhancing a casing? [Re: BrownPastures]
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hey no need to have a whine urself brownie :smile: don't be such a hypocrite... hissy fit my ass!
if u wanna correct me fine. i call it "learning" but don't whinge like a fucking woman :smile:

2 things to "correct" you on. i said "i" was experimentally certain. meaning that for me it happens often.

also, i did not mean individual mass of the fruiting bodies, i meant surface area increased overall yields! how the fuck would more surface area increase the size of each mushroom?

i have only been on this board recently because i left ages ago after i fell out of this particular hobby for a while. this was long before the board was even changed!

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