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Alternative to fanning?
    #3335977 - 11/09/04 05:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Is there any other method of providing fresh air to my cakes?

There are a couple days a week that i cant fan them for nearly 12 hours.


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: robbster]
    #3335983 - 11/09/04 05:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Have you looked into making a Poor Mans Pod??


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3335999 - 11/09/04 05:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

link to PMP. It takes care of humidity and gas exchange. In other words, misting and fanning becomes automated.

Poormans Pod(PMP) by Magash


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3336003 - 11/09/04 05:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think we need to stop giving them links eveytime a question is asked. People need to learn how to use the search function and do some research on their own. I know its nice to do and i do it sometimes too. But the more we do it the lazier they get.


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3336006 - 11/09/04 06:03 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I still have a hard time with searching for some specific info here.  Search function is fairly limited because you can't use conjunctions like and/or/except and such...  And with so many posts, it's really hard when you are starting off.

I remember when I started, it was so much better with links.  That never stopped me from learning the search function over next couple of weeks.  I think when you start off, a little help definitely cuts down on sorting through the enormous amount of required reading.  Come on now...  they really really have a lot to read.

And besides, I have it programmed.  Not much hassle for me to post those links. :wink:

Of course, I'd the first to give a swift kick in the ass if they seem ignorant and haven't done ANY research. :wink:

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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3336012 - 11/09/04 06:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, sounds fair to me. It just see it done alot so I thought i would mention something. Sorry for hijacking the thread robbster. But def. look at that link. It is really easy to put together and run. Good Luck.


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3336035 - 11/09/04 06:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The search function is difficult to use. The google one for the entire site is best. People with hard times using computers could have a hard time finding what they need using search as Sam mentioned, there are some issues with it. People come here to learn how to cultivate, not how to search for things.

I mean whats this person supposed to search for to start off with? All they know is they dont want to fan so what do you search for if you dont know the term PMP? This requires them to make a post and at that point is it needed to make them go search for it? How do you even know this person doesnt know how to search and didnt try but had no idea what to look for. If you keep the threads bookmarks its easy enough to link people up. I understand people need to do some things on their own and I have actually been comming down on some newbies latly who have been getting a little silly with their posts filled with a lack of wanting to learn and to eager to just get mushrooms and to do things their way even though its their first grow. Not to mention a post gives the poster multiple feelings on a subject as opposed to just one person who wrote a FAQ. There is some information that is definatly personal opinion and I think shouldnt be advised to do and people posting questions about that helps this.

Well anyways yeah way off track. That PMP is the way to go though. You can use a cool mist humidifier as well but more expensive, noisy and more of a hassle unless your dealing with a larger grow then a rubbermaid or two.


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3336057 - 11/09/04 07:06 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Uh, i believe i said Poor Mans Pod in my post, but i guess your too busy to read the whole thing


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3336093 - 11/09/04 07:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I read that you said it but like I said..the person has already had to post..if you can easily hold the links at your disposal for newbies as Sam can then why shouldn't the person get the link and be forced to search for it?


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3336104 - 11/09/04 08:07 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

To allow him to learn how to use the shroomery effectivly, it will benefit the person more. Give a person a can of beans and they can eat for a day, gie them some seeds and they can eat for a lifetime.


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  Edward Abbey


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3336111 - 11/09/04 08:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing wrong with giving a head start.  I mean, they will most likely to be glued to the computer for hours and hours looking through this site soon, anyways...  plenty of time to learn to search.  I think it's better than going around spreading ideas that basic PF tek is too hard and time consuming like some people and end up buying kits as an alternatives.

And besides, he was in "Search" of alternate method to fanning.

I'm sure everyone here will agree that whatever is in my head and computer...  it's searchable by asking. :wink:  I'm sure many feel the same way with their knowledge as good contributors to the community.

Sam


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3336122 - 11/09/04 08:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh im not saying dont help em out. Just try to have them come up with the awnsers on their own sometimes. I find it mush more satisfying to find the info myself than have it spoonfed. I also remember it better too.


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  Edward Abbey


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3336125 - 11/09/04 08:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Silven: Mod In Training

Thread Locked. :lol:


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think they are rebels & are arrogant, proud, conceited, and worth every
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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: Silven]
    #3336138 - 11/09/04 08:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Why??? No ones flaming man. Just discussing.


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  Edward Abbey


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3336155 - 11/09/04 08:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

LoL.  Silven, you might be training forever. :wink:

Sam


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3336233 - 11/09/04 09:25 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'd agree with you about most things they should search for, you know, what lighting, what strain, humidity, temp, ect ect..THIS is basic info and can be found by a search. However I have tried myself to find the Rye thread by Magash using the search and had to use the google one to get any results and it still took a little digging..I already know how to use it and what I was looking for and it still was a pain in the ass..if I didnt know what I was looking for I'd have been dead in the water..just like someone searching for the PMP. Basic information can be found and teks come across but unless you ask if there are methods that are an improvment from the ones you know, you might miss out on a few interesting ideas if you are a newbie who is only using the search function afraid to post a question asking the best way to automate fresh air exchange which is something not easily searched for. Especially for a newbie, this site can be overwhelming with all the posts, a computer illerate (or almost) person may also have never heard of a forum let alone how to use one or search one or much but they found a little word that says "post", if your going to give the man seeds to grow beans at least when you tell him "Have you looked into making a Poor Mans Pod??" Tell him where he can look into it at, be it a link or directions to look for where the search function is and inform them that there is one if they were aware.

I mean, myself, I won't give anyone links..I'll describe and tell them words to search for and to use the google one and where it is, but I don't hand out links ever..I just don't think its bad practice for others to do it if they are so inclined or that you should tell people to help people less to make them do more work. You gave him very little to go on for a pretty resonable question..


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3336247 - 11/09/04 09:33 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It took me two trys to get the rye tek to come up. I really dont see the problem. I do agree the search engine can be difficult to operate, especially for someone new to this site. And yes there are alot of posts and alot of information on this site. But that is one thing they teach you in school to is serch for things and not rely on someone else to do all the work for you. I do believe were in agreence on this subject.


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  Edward Abbey


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3336272 - 11/09/04 09:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I was taught you find information any way you can.  Best method was to ask the teachers where I can find them, not the library index. :wink:

Sam


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3336284 - 11/09/04 09:54 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Sam1912 said:
I was taught you find information any way you can.  Best method was to ask the teachers where I can find them, not the library index. :wink:

Sam




Thats how I was taught too.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Alternative to fanning? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3336325 - 11/09/04 10:05 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Good point. Actually excellent point. Maybe we should bring up a revision of the search function? Or maybe some sort of tutorial to help people just now joining the shroomer???


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  Edward Abbey


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