HALF THE QUESTIONS PEOPLE ASK IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM THERE JUST TO FUCKIN LAZY TO READ!

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"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see"

Sir. Twinkus

Hey if you know so much go to a library and stroke yourself while you read a book about this crap. There you won't have people bothering you. I am not sure how long you have been on the board but for that matter I don't even care.

It pisses me off that so many people hear take that avenue of vision. I found this place and was happy as hell. I could chill and read some of the other peoples experience's on what they were doing and gain some insight and help newbies just like some people helped me.

If your too fucking high and mighty to help go to the advanced section and waddle in you shitpool of glorified intelligence.

To everyone else, I know this is a rough reaction but hey he felt like venting. So I just vented right back.

I think all newbies should be welcomed not shunned. In time they will figure this website out. Give them a break.

im always willing to help people out in fact i like helping newbies shrooms are fun to grow and i figure everyone sould have a good chance at doing it

when i found this board i was happy as shit i had been wanting to grow and didn't know how, this place helped me learn

but it just pisses me off when people ask questions that could of easly been answered if they just took the time to read some of the tek's in the grow/find section like i had to do

alot of these people just don't want to read and figure it will be easier to post and have someone answer for them then reading a tek

im not trying to be an asshole (like i said iv'e had plenty of questions) but not something i could of read on my own

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"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see"

Sir. Twinkus

[This message has been edited by Condi1 (edited October 06, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Condi1 (edited October 06, 2000).]

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I think I posted two or three very newby questions before I even discovered the search function. So I don't blame them so much. But improvements can certainly be made.
I'd like to see two things happen:
1) When you click "Community", above the Message Boards option should be a Search Message Boards option, where the cultivation/hunting topics have direct links to their search function.
2) When someone posts in a cultivation/hunting topic, they are advised to search first (and given a link) and also advised to be very descriptive in their topic title.
3) When people are getting off the name of the topic, they should start new threads.

Okay these seem like Good Things to me as 1)+2) would promote searching before asking, 2) would make later searches easier, and 3) would make searches more useful.

What they are telling them is that maybe they should _AT LEAST_ look in the Grow/Find section _BEFORE_ they start asking away simple Q's that would be VERY easy to find by either navigating in the grow section or by searching the messageboards......
As said...they would get the information they want _FASTER_ then sitting here waiting for an answer....
I see _ALOT_ of Q's being asked overandoverandover again ....and _ALOT_ of these questions could have been answered by just getting into the Grow section....

They are LAZY....!!!

I do agree though with shroom77, that the interaction between newbies/experienced growers is good...
But once again --- questions like : "How do i grow shrooms?" and such are just plain STUPID...!!!
People asking these kinds of Q's havent even looked in the grow section...

PERIOD..!!

[This message has been edited by LillSkit (edited February 05, 2000).]

From my personal experience, I learned how to grow way before I even knew of the Shroomery. So I do like to help people who are just starting out. I know its tough to find answers to certain questions. If I can help someone out, I'll do it

But on the other hand. I'm noticing that there are ALOT of people who are simply lazy!!! I mean, most of the questions that newbies ask, the answers can be found in the "Grow/Find" section. OR (this is the sad part) all they have to do is look back thru the posts a week or two.

It's NOT HARD!!!! Look back 10-14 days and I can almost put money down that their question will be in the heap of them all.

I Love the Shroomery. I visit it alot and it's a very informative site. But, at the same time, I can see how experienced growers can get weary of it and not want to come back due to lazy newbies.

I have absolutely no gripes with newbies, but I do have a problem with people who are too lazy to do their own homework.

I've said my peace;-)

Lana

[This message has been edited by Psychonaut (edited January 08, 2001).]

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and it seems to me that most people have good questions

It's just that newbies need to do there homework. I had a lot of questions in the begining that were answerd in 2 minutes of looking

I say there should be a link for newbies at the top of the page to the grow/find and search sections.

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"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see"

Sir. Twinkus

I do get so sick of post after post of "Senior Members" (itself somewhat of a misnomer)tellin' it to the newbies. The last thing anyone in here needs is a Shroomery mother to watch over them. It's a lot like watching TV, folks. If you don't like the show you can always shut it off. If you don't want to read a newbie topic then you don't have to. If you don't want to help a newbie, don't. Why discourage anyone from asking "dumb" questions. I mean when you get right down to it, why doesn't everybody stop posting and just read past posts. The answers are bound to be in there. The point is, people ask questions, to hear what YOU think. Why pass up the oportunity to tell them.

Encouragement to NOT post ANY question..........BAD!

But when I came to this board over two years ago, there was a lot less of the repetitive newbie posts. I understand there will be a certain increase in that as more people join the Shroomery community, and I like the idea that we all have a place to convene, young and old, experienced and inexperienced, grower and non-grower.

But, as Ryche put so well, there are a lot of really good, innovative, descriptive, helpful, and generally informative posts on the boards that get lost in the flotsam and jetsam of truly unnecessary newbie and/or off-topic posts. Sometimes I have to load several pages to get to the good stuff, which is pushed to the bottom as people reply to threads that need a single one-line answer or url pointing to a previous thread.

Once again, don't get me wrong. I try to help where I can. But when I know for a verified fact that there are literally dozens of previous posts that address an issue, it bugs me to see someone firing off a poorly-thought-out new thread and simply clogging up space and adding entropy to the boards.

Pretty soon I hope to have a pretty *comprehensive newbie FAQ* ready to contribute, with links to particularly helpful threads and some pretty detailed info on specific topics, as well as a good overview of different substrates and hardware teks. So I'm definitely aware that there are a lot of new growers out there that need some help finding the right information, and I'm more than willing to help in that effort. And if it saves some redundant posts, then I'll have accomplished at least part of the purpose I want that document to serve.

Amen to the idea to add a bigger search engine link and to make sure the search engine is up and running well. And amen to the new 'Pearls of Growing Wisdom' section. I think it would be a great boon to add a disclaimer that stands out a bit at the top of each forum, with a prominent link to the search engine, and some basic guidelines/ideas on what sorts of questions could be most easily answered by using it.

I am relatively experienced, and have spent untold hours perusing all aspects of the Shroomery, particularly the boards, and they are invaluable tools for every stripe of cultivator, from the guy that just realizeed that you could conceivably grow psychedelics yourself to someone like Workman who is an old hand at this arcane art and science.

I can tell you that the search engine, when used with some patience and foresight, can yield incredibly helpful information if you are willing to dredge up the pearls from the dross.

-peace-

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"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints."

Lemme just point out that I have nothing against newbie posts per se. Sometimes it's the new grower that comes up with the interesting questions. But, like I said before, it's tiresome to wade through literally page after page of questions that have been answered before, or are answered in a tek.

The point is, think before you post. Otherwise you waste *everyone's* bandwidth when they spend time downloading and then trying to find the few good, informative posts in the mass of same-old same-old.

The best solution is to just look to see if someone has posted the same topic you want to ask. Most of the time its right there. If not post.

What ever happened to the student teacher mutual respect?

I'm guilty as charged of asking the same question that was on a page, but hey fuck it man.

As for lares, you should be more sympathetic and chill out.

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The Search function helped me immensely when i first started out.I only had to ask a few questions that i couldnt find aswers to in the teks. Then again, I read every tek twice before I even attempted growing. When I finally had my tek down and i wasnt getting contamination any more, i began answering "newbie" questions.
In fact, I would say that 90% of my posts have been here in the cult board. answering questions. Within 3 months of doing this i had 4-6 people a week e-mailing me questions. This i do not mind at all. i can get back to a person via e-mail rather quckly. and i feel like im realy helping.

Over the last 3 months i have almost given up on the BB. the same questions over and over have made me a bit tired of it all.

All i ask is, if you are new at growing, and you have a question. THINK. Is it likey that this question has come up before? Then search for it. If you then cant find the answer in the search results or the growing teks... then post. This will save valuable bandwith and I will get back on here and answer some well thought out questions.

Don't get me wrong. i love this place and i would really like to answer all the questions, but its hard when you answer one and the same question pops up the next day or week, with a differnt subject line.

Thank you

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