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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: Xlea321]
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What bit don't you understand? 



the part just after the beginning.

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Try typing in dutch and see if you make as much sense.



so you agree he/she made no sense?  Thanks for the support. :thumbup:


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: MushroomFriend]
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again you make no sense whatsoever.


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: MushroomFriend]
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Land_Crab said:
Saddam was a bad man, but now he's gone.  We're not.  At this moment, or in the very near future, we will have killed more civilians than Saddam's regime.

What are we doing in Iraq?


We are in Iraq doing what we can to insure the extremists do not overrun the cities and turn everything back into what it was; or worse.


MushroomFriend said:
Ok you cyberhero, so you think cause saddam killed kurds us is is allowed to kill children?

so those parents are allowed to blow ur brain out, cause Bush blew their kids up?

You sick bastard. (ignored)

MF


Saddamn killing Kurds in not a reason to kill civilians.  Nobody ever made that point.  You're logic is flawed. 

Bush did not blow anybody up.  He gave the orders that the soldiers followed.  If anybody, your beef is with them.  That said, it does not give anybody the right to blow the brains out of someone on this message board.  More flawed logic(even considering the language barrier)


MushroomFriend said:
LOL! thanks alex!

What an asshole cause I tell him that we are not out on muslimslaughter he gets pissed?

Hey dude come over here and yell in the streets that all muslims are unwanted garbage. Together with your muslimhating family. :wink:

U must be some masochist!?:D Close to extremist that is 4 sure! :P

MF


That is a ridiculous statement.  I'm willing to wager that more than 99% of the forces at war are not out to slaughter muslims.  They are there because that is what they were ordered to do.  That makes two types of soldier.  The ones that support the war, and the ones that don't.  The ones that don't simply do not have the courage to throw their life away into a military prison for standing up for what they believe in.  The ones that do support the war most likely feel it is vital to national security. 
Who said anything about yelling in the streets?  Especially about muslims.  When did you meet Innvertigo's family?  What did they do in your presence to show hatred towards muslims?


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: daimyo]
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Yes Invertigo justified US killing people cause Saddam killed Kurds. Landcrab showed pictures of people killed by Bush, Daimyo thinks that pictures of killed kurds should be there too.
WHY? Cause Saddam killed Kurds, Bush can kill Iraqi civilians? You might not get it... *sigh*

Ow Bush aint a killer, he lets soldiers do that, But they blame their guns! :laugh:

Yes Evolving was very ridiculous! Stating that the consensus in Holland is that we all hate muslims and see them as garbage and so on.
He might want that to be true! Poor boy......
Fortunately it is not that way. Not meaning that we feel so good about the murder last Tuesday... Not at fucking all......

And yes he suggested me to yell in the streets to drunken Dutchmen that the murder last Tuesday was cool. That my ass would get kicked then. (LOL why on earth would I do that?)

He can go to Israel and state that Hitler is the best, guess whos ass is getting kicked? Same thing.

He can also come here and state in the face of some marrocans that all muslims are garbage and should get lost. Something he is actually saying here on the forum. I know a good dentist here Evolving! And a hospital!

Just a sick person that Evolving. And thats why I ignored the brainless fag.


MF


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: Innvertigo]
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Innvertigo said:
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What bit don't you understand? 



the part just after the beginning.

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Try typing in dutch and see if you make as much sense.



so you agree he/she made no sense?  Thanks for the support. :thumbup:


NO little loser, you will make even less sense then you are doing now... :wink:

Ciao > ignore again! :laugh:

MF


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: Innvertigo]
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Talking to yourself maggot ?:P

MF

PS: Now really ignored again.


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: MushroomFriend]
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MushroomFriend said:
WHY? Cause Saddam killed Kurds, Bush can kill Iraqi civilians? You might not get it... *sigh*

Ow Bush aint a killer, he lets soldiers do that, But they blame their guns! :laugh:

Yes Evolving was very ridiculous! Stating that the consensus in Holland is that we all hate muslims and see them as garbage and so on.
He might want that to be true! Poor boy......
Fortunately it is not that way. Not meaning that we feel so good about the murder last Tuesday... Not at fucking all......

And yes he suggested me to yell in the streets to drunken Dutchmen that the murder last Tuesday was cool. That my ass would get kicked then. (LOL why on earth would I do that?)

He can go to Israel and state that Hitler is the best, guess whos ass is getting kicked? Same thing.

He can also come here and state in the face of some marrocans that all muslims are garbage and should get lost. Something he is actually saying here on the forum. I know a good dentist here Evolving! And a hospital!

Just a sick person that Evolving. And thats why I ignored the brainless fag.


MF


Where does anyone, besides yourself, make the argument that because Saddam killed Kurds, Bush(who is not fighting in the war) can kill Iraqis?

Please site a source of a soldier blaming their firearm for their actions.

I do not have the context in which Evolving made those statements, so I don't care about them anymore.  Thank you for pointing out that you did not make them.  My apologies.


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: daimyo]
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Where does anyone, besides yourself, make the argument that because Saddam killed Kurds, Bush(who is not fighting in the war) can kill Iraqis?



This is the argument that a hell of a lot of pro-Iraq war people have fallen back on since the WMDs didn't turn up.

And don't pretend that Bush (and his administration) isn't just as responsible for those deaths as the soldiers.  You don't really think that.

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Please site a source of a soldier blaming their firearm for their actions.



He was making the analogy between you blaming soldiers for Bush's actions and soldiers blaming guns for their actions.  Straight over your head :wink:.

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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: deafpanda]
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Certainly Bush has an amount of responsibilty tied to the deaths on all sides. Not nearly as much as the people doing the murdering though. Not even as much as the Congressmen and Congresswomen that gave him the OK.

I wasn't blaming soldiers for Bush's actions. I was merely stating that the soldiers are responsible for THEIR OWN actions.
Bush's only action was to sign some papers and make a few speeches. He has not killed one person in the war. Perhaps it's splitting hairs, but I am tired of hearing people say Bush is responsible when all he did was make an order.


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: daimyo]
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Hello Damyo,

WHen LamnCrab showed those picks you mentioned that he should show pics of killed kurds as well.
I interpreted that as if that would be some sort of an excuse for the killing going on in Iraq now.
Cause if he should post pictures of murdered Kurds, why not also murderd people in Darfur? Afghanistan?

No he was critizing US for what they did/do (to relative innocent people I guess??)so then other peoples victims are not relevant for that matter. Or are they?

But when is a civilian innocent? Half the US voted for war, how innocent are they?

Thanks,
MF


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: daimyo]
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Please site a source of a soldier blaming their firearm for their actions.



Lol since you said that Bush isnt a killer cause the soldiers are the ones executing the orders.
So the gun is executing the order from the soldiers finger then?

So everybody is innocent its those ev0l guns! :laugh:

MF


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: deafpanda]
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I discovered some intelligence! :laugh: :thumbup:

Regards,
MF


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: daimyo]
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Hitler was only giving orders.

Stupid assholes who followed them cause they did not want to go to jail! Hitler wasnt that bad!

No, Bush HAS the biggest responsability, the one of a leader!
And yes we must not forget the responsability of the individual. The individual soldier, the individual country. Too often US is pointed out as the ONLY bad guy. But they are a superpower, covering almost all Israels deeds. While EU is condemning Israels brutallity more and more.

Everyone is responsible but the leader IS Responsable in the end.

And if you go against powers that are bigger/stronger then yours, cause you think what you do is so right, you might end up like Theo van Gogh...
Sad but true.

I think its stupid that people steal, still I lock my house and my car.

All the best,
MF


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: MushroomFriend]
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MushroomFriend, it would appear you need to reacquaint yourself with the mushroom. Comments such as "Just a sick person that Evolving. And thats why I ignored the brainless fag," show a lack of enlightenment. More importantly, they violate the forum rules. I suggest you behave yourself upon your return.

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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: MushroomFriend]
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I discovered some intelligence!



you wouldn't know it from your posts....i'd be happy if you discovered reality.


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: deafpanda]
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One more time for the cheap seats.

We invaded Iraq becasue they failed to live up to their Agrements about disarming. We did not know 100% if he did or didn't have WMD. What we did know is that for a decade he Avoided living up to his agreements 100%, and the UN was not interested in holding him accountable 100%.

It is clear that you sided with the UN position at the time of invasion. It is clear that a large percentage of Americans agree with you, and a large percentage of the world. What seems to be totally missed by you is the MAJORITY of AMERICANS supported and continue to support Our efforts. Since Americans control American policy, and American policy is controlled by a majority VOTE, and not by some single person on there own private crusade, your position is acknowledged, disagreed with, and ignored.

America will not be attacked. We will not allow losers of wars we are involved in to maintain power without a price(disarming under supervision). The world now knows this. Sorry if it makes you nervous, but you all make us nervous constantly day in and day out with your blame of America for your own populaitons inability to create a WORKABLE governmnet to govern yourselves.

Your governmnets are only as controllable as you let them be. Why is Osama attacking America when he could be attacking Saudi Arabia. Why atttack America when he could attack Israel.

Muslim nations are controllable from outside influence becasue Muslims allow them to be. Populations are ultimately responsible for policing themselves, and building a governmnet that meets their needs.

I hear alot about American foreighn policy, but our foreighn policy is only as strong as it's tolerance by foreighn governmnets. Since governmnets represent the populaiotns they govern, they blame ultimately resides in the populaiton of that nation.

Blame muslims for muslim deaths in muslim countries. If America starts killing muslims within its borders, then we can start blaming America.

Iraq is a nation of Muslim majority. If the people were unhappy with their governmnet, they should have done something themselves. They didn't. When a nation with the resources to do something felt it had too, we did.

The world is becoming more and more delusional. No one takes responsibility for themselves any more. Always looking to blame someone else for problems. If I lived in IRaq I would not have children, that would be blown up by accident in a war trying to free me, becasue I wouldn't try myself.

How do you look yourself in the mirror everyday when you bring a child into a repressive regime. How do you look yourself in the mirror every day when you start blaming another country for having to remove your leaders becasue they possed a threat to nations outside your borders.

Those opposed to war with Iraq are of the mindset that Iraq is not responsible for it's own behavior. There can be no other rationalization for not holding them accountable for their invasion of Kuwait, and subsequent agreeements to disarm PUBLICLY. To say that they did do this is a LIE. The operative words are PUBLIC DISARMING. Doing so with PROOF. This is Iraqs ultimate failure. They did not prove to the UN that they disarmed. The UN choose to not make them, and instead decided it would blame the USA for Iraqs failures.

GET IT.

Saadam had WMD. He was required to disarm and PROVE IT(disarm under supervision), he failed to do so 100%. He paid the price along with the populaiton he ruled. Is it shitty that civilians died? YES YES YES. Is America entirley to blame for the conditions in IRAQ that lead to Saadam becoming ruler, maintaining power, and ignoring his own agreements to the world after his failed invasion of Kuwait? NO NO NO.

Are we taking the blame from the world community? YES YES YES

You would blame America for stravation in Africa. Do you blame the parents of the starving children for having kids when they can't feed themselves?

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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: EonTan]
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You would blame America for stravation in Africa.



It's already been done, we exploit third world countries because it makes us smile. (sarcasm)


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: EonTan]
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Preach.


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: MushroomFriend]
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MushroomFriend said:
LWhat an asshole cause I tell him that we are not out on muslimslaughter he gets pissed?



I think Bush should go on TV and announce that the usa is now "On muslimslaughter".
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Hey dude come over here and yell in the streets that all muslims are unwanted garbage. Together with your muslimhating family. :wink:



Aren't we liberating the majority of them ?aren't nations having elections? aren't women voting? YOU WANT TO BE ARE ON WOMENSLAUGHTER!


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Re: Thanks Bush voters [Re: retread]
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Women voting is an abomination to Muslims


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