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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Frog]
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The prisons & sweatshops are very close to slavery (under a guise & some type of protocol in their country that allows it to happen.)So, even a country not considered a 3rd-world country (US) has it cloaked but still there with these overcrowded prisons & outsourcing to sweatshops.

Now Bush Jr. wants to let in more people from the south for cheaper labor for the gov't to feed off of -- at the same time outsource all our tech-help jobs to India (not to mention the psychotic military budget we talked about earlier.) We need to think of some solutions. I will start with the free energy plans that are given free from some science websites now & much more efficient solar panels are out in the market to cut costs.

The airline act that allows everyone's personal information opened to the feds was also found to be ineffective but they're still going to use it for everyone that takes a flight. Soon it'll be more random wiretaps and searching through private servers for no real reason but to be assholes & control us.

Edited by spacedragon (08/27/04 12:28 AM)

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: spacedragon]
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Well, and that is a good point. But I suppose I'm now narrowing my focus on the dilemmas facing the people in their 20s, who feel like they have no options but to be enslaved to society. (Should this be a new thread?)

I once told someone that I didn't want to hang out with 20-something year olds, because what would they have to teach me? But I have learned a lot from you people on this forum, and I know that most of you are late teens to early 20s.

Then I spoke with someone in his 50s who said that he loved talking to young people, because he learned about the world that they were growing up in, and that was important for him to do his job better. Every generation has different needs and different reasons for those needs based on the era in which they are growing up. That made sense to me. (And keep in mind that I'm not against young people or something. I play pool in dives where 20-year olds play on a weekly basis.)

Did anyone ever do a thread on what your fears are about getting older in this era, your era, if you are in your late teens or early 20s? What you feel is expected of you? What you think your options are?

After that conversation with the 50 something year old guy, I was wondering if the world of the younger people is really that much different than the world of the older people. You know, the eras that we each grew up in.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Frog]
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Quote:
(Should this be a new thread?)




No, those were really good ideas. Many people have started to bridge the gap through the use of the internet between ages & races. I think I have felt better since I stopped watching t.v. so much. The television system was believed by the u.s. gov't and the elohim as a "central nervous system" for the species & it is currently poisoned in many countries. It didn't get the Elohim very far either. They still look for sources of happiness outiside of them, needing expensive elements & materials to fuel their robots & houses that have changing floor art, colored plants that turn different colors etc & other lame stuff that doesn't compare to what we see in hyperspace guys.

Edited by spacedragon (08/27/04 03:03 AM)

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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mattzdope said:
To me it isn't about him trying to sell his equipment... I am guessing he is a very lonely person.




Social depriviation is a very serious disorder. I wonder if you know how it feels to be unable to socialise on a healthy level because of suppressed emotions?

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: cleaner]
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"I wonder if you know how it feels to be unable to socialise on a healthy level because of suppressed emotions?"

Most net-junkies do


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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Strumpling]
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I would bet that a lot of net junkies are Aspies (Asperger's Syndrome). Removes the human equation.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Frog]
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Or of the schizoid personality type :wink:


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Strumpling]
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Strumpling said:
I'm talking about actual slavery as well. We are bought and sold on a regular basis (1) we are slaves to the products that we ourselves work to create and the rich profit off of (2) and we are definitely 'wage slaves' too (3).

You have got to realize that there is a small percentage of humanity out there that is still actually not involved with money or modern politics or even modern science, and they are happier than we will ever be, consistantly (until we rip down all the nature surrounding them and force them into our club).

We were (are) raised as consumers and workers. We are slaves to the people creating this reality. You are pummelled with advertisements from a very early age, and sometimes when you're walking past a store or restaraunt, you'll go in and get something you don't need. You are a slave to consumption... capitalism. Some asshole makes a profit every time one of our diseased, zombie-asses buys some french fries at 3:00 in the afternoon "kuz they're good." Those fries aren't good dude they're fucking poison! poison for your body and your mind. They do not care though because it keeps us buying - we are addicted to consumption because we were intentionally raised this way. We are bought and sold to make the few wealthy people here on earth even wealthier.

OK so take political action! aww bummer it looks like the businesses not only own YOU and ME, but they own the fucking politicians too!! This is a small handful of people tossing us around in a stupor, sending us out to find happiness, conditioning us to think that the fries will contain happiness, or the new car, or hey buy a giant airplane if you have the money!! Come on you know you want one! It burns jet fuel like the best of 'em!

We are fucking addicts. We are whores. It is only "not our fault" until we realize it, which is why people have such trouble accepting it, because then "holy fuck what have I DONE?! oh this has to be a dream its so comfortable in this couch there's not a problem in this world that concerns me.."

I say FUCK ME man. FUCK ME for not doing anything about it! And FUCK YOU if you see that we're all slaves too but you don't do anything about it.

The revolution is not being televised, but it is happening right now. It is not being faught with bullets and explosions, it is being faught with INFORMATION. Wake up your fellow man, and constantly spread the word - spread the word like there is no tomorrow because there might not be if we don't wake eachother up and start making some fucking NOISE!

***ahem!*** oh excuse me.. did I say something?

/disregard



Just wanted to let you know that I'm with you on this. In my opinion, it is harder to believe that this ISN'T happening than to realize that it is. Money is power in this world and the power is consolidating into fewer and fewer hands. If we want to see what is being done with this power just look at the state of the world and where it is headed...not good. These are not benevolent people.

Those who are awake must wake the others. The way I see it, we are being tricked into being co-creators of a version of reality that 'they' are pushing...a version of reality that is full of war, poverty, fear and hate. We learn to believe that this world is the only possibility from the time we are infants, and this learning is constantly reinforced via popular culture and media.

What most people have forgotten is just how powerful we really are ('know ye not? Ye are gods' - Jesus). We create our own reality ('With your thoughts you create the world' - Buddha). The revolution will be complete when enough of us have immagined a better world. Will directs thought and thought creates reality. As you said, this revolution will not be fought without war...it is being fought inside us all.


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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Strumpling]
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has anybody seen John Carpenters movie "They Live"? the movie is pretty much about what you are all discussing here. the film is about an alien race that has come to earth and forced us into submission through the type of 'slavery' Strumpling mentions(great explaination btw). in the movie, people start to 'wake up' when they see through the bullshit. the symbolism used to represent this is the act of putting on a pair of glasses that allow the subject to see the world for what it really is; a never-ending cycle of comformity and consumption. i think somebody on these boards even has a screengrab in their signature.

"CONFORM, CONSUME, OBEY"

definitely worth checking out if you haven't seen it already.


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"this lebowski he called himself 'the dude'. now, 'dude', that's a name no one would self-apply where i come from but there was a lot about the dude that didn't make sense to me...."--the Stranger

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: spacedragon]
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Edited by matt (08/31/07 05:39 PM)

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: TheDude]
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no I haven't seen it.

In my opinion The Matrix was an excellent revolutionary move with perhaps a bit too much hollywood flash thrown into the mix.

Did you realize that The Matrix was trying to tell you WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU ARE A TOOL FOR THE MACHINE! or were you busy tripping out on the neato special effects?

I'll check out "They Live" ASAP


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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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dude I heard you can see the flag and footprints on the moon if you get access to a pimp enough telescope.

Don't tell me that these high-tech telescopes are programmed to show images that aren't there.... because that's possible too but I'd rather not think about it.


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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Strumpling]
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Edited by matt (08/31/07 05:38 PM)

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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how bout if there was a little micro space in the telescope that rotated on an axis an spun at the correct speed and stopped at the right time to produce the effect.maybe there was nano technology awhile back,good enough to create a little space the sice of a bouncy ball but the details are so small.???????????????????

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: tnecseda]
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Edited by matt (08/31/07 05:38 PM)

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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Yea, in the John Lear report damnit. The former US military captain. How many times do I have to tell you guys. You bug out when I say things like 18 alien species monitoring us, The "Grey" that have been autopsied and showing greenish blood & LOTS of chlorophyll in their bodies for energy needs (photosynthesis) --- All that stuff I say, and the 7-mile tower, are in that report.

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: spacedragon]
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...Retired airline captain, with over 19,000 hours of flight-time, has flown in over 100 different types of planes in 60 different counties around the world.

John held 17 world records including speed around the world in a Lear Jet Model 24, set in 1966. He was presented with the PATCO award for outstanding airmanship in 1968, and the Symons Wave memorial. He was the youngest American to climb the Matterhorn in Switzerland in 1959 and in the 1970's owned and skippered the Americas Cup boat, the Soliloquy, out of Marina Del Rey.


http://www.greatdreams.com/John-Lear.htm

Yes, also he mentioned there's in fact life on Venus as well.

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: spacedragon]
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I SEE IT! wait...nevermind my lens cap was still on....

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: Philanthropist]
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He goes on in the Report (about the moon)

..." I ordered some prints from NASA and of course - when you order picures of the moon from NASA, and they don't come from NASA - there are three separate places where they come from and to go back to the middle 60's when NASA really realized what was going on, they had the lunar orbitor series - there were five camera ships they sent to the moon with fabulous detailed photographs of the moon - and when they came back, they were chock full of these buildings and arches, domes, and buildings and of ... you know ... there were people who spent their entire careers airbrushing this stuff out and then taking a picture of 'that' picture and that's what you would get for public information and thats the picture that got sent out to the pubic.


Once in awhile you could order a picture and they forgot to airbrush - or they didn't know it, and one thing they could never have imagined in the 60's - that in the 90's computer technolog would make it possible that we could scan a photograph like that and enlarge it and find the airbrush marks and find stuff that they didn't see - looking at the print. You can go right down and see little tracks and all kinds of stuff."

Edited by spacedragon (08/28/04 12:44 AM)

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Re: Heaven is coming to earth *the sequel* [Re: spacedragon]
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...Retired airline captain, with over 19,000 hours of flight-time, has flown in over 100 different types of planes in 60 different counties around the world.

Yes, also he mentioned there's in fact life on Venus as well.

Flying to 60 countries doesn't tell anyone more about Venus than a person who flew to two countries, NOW DOES IT? Did he fly to Venus? No.

John held 17 world records including speed around the world in a Lear Jet Model 24, set in 1966. He was presented with the PATCO award for outstanding airmanship in 1968, and the Symons Wave memorial. He was the youngest American to climb the Matterhorn in Switzerland in 1959 and in the 1970's owned and skippered the Americas Cup boat, the Soliloquy, out of Marina Del Rey.
Once again, what do these accomplishments tell us of his mental stability or esoteric knowledge? Nothing.


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