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Re: Large scale exotics project/Alert for exotics cultivators [Re: ghiajake] * 1
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ghiajake said:
My experience is opposite of this. Never had any problems with fruiting P. mexicana, tamps, allenii, or Ps cyans, but these damn Pans are being a bitch! I feel like Captain Ahab chasing the white whale... It's embarrassing... :facepalm:



I think I did about 5 or 6 grows before I got a feel for pans. And plenty of failures, too, between some really good grows.
If you find some good genetics...hang on to them for dear life.


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Cultivating Panaeolus cyanescens


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Re: Large scale exotics project/Alert for exotics cultivators [Re: Asura] * 1
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Asura said:
ghiajake said:
My experience is opposite of this. Never had any problems with fruiting P. mexicana, tamps, allenii, or Ps cyans, but these damn Pans are being a bitch! I feel like Captain Ahab chasing the white whale... It's embarrassing... :facepalm:



I think I did about 5 or 6 grows before I got a feel for pans. And plenty of failures, too, between some really good grows.
If you find some good genetics...hang on to them for dear life.



A good culture is easy to fruit but getting there is the hard part. Pans have taught me more about agar techniques and culture selection than anything else so far

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Re: Large scale exotics project/Alert for exotics cultivators [Re: eastside]
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I feel like pans are a step into the more difficult exotics.

Mycelium looks more mold like than some other exotics in my opinion and some other exotics always plin on plates and don't require aerial transfers to cabins and aerial transfers to trenches and some exotics are easier to fruit with little to no modifications and no temp regulations.

I've had success with certain exotics in higher/lower water content and complete litfa till harvest for almost as good flushes with complete neglect from spawn to done 👍

And pans need lotsa air right and don't like having they're pins wet I think n most use low nute agar I think for pans to be able to visually tell if it looks good or not and others are not picky about they're agar at all evin from germination


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono 😎

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Re: Large scale exotics project/Alert for exotics cultivators [Re: bloodssonnew] * 1
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bloodssonnew said:
I feel like pans are a step into the more difficult exotics.

Mycelium looks more mold like than some other exotics in my opinion and some other exotics always plin on plates and don't require aerial transfers to cabins and aerial transfers to trenches and some exotics are easier to fruit with little to no modifications and no temp regulations.

I've had success with certain exotics in higher/lower water content and complete litfa till harvest for almost as good flushes with complete neglect from spawn to done 👍

And pans need lotsa air right and don't like having they're pins wet I think n most use low nute agar I think for pans to be able to visually tell if it looks good or not and others are not picky about they're agar at all evin from germination




This is why I would not categorize them as an easy exotic. No other species that I've grown has needed extensive agar work before you even get a chance to fruit them. I'm sure once you get them figured out, things become easier. But there is definitely a larger learning curve than anything else I've grown.

For example, these were the first flush on the first 3 totes I ever fruited of P. mexicana, my first attempt at fruiting any psilly species other than cubes. They were a G1 from MS spore print, required no added steps, and I fruited them in the same martha as the cubes I was fruiting. And the substrate was straight verm, with a straight verm casing.


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