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Tripping without cannabis?
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For the past three years that I’ve made it into the mushroom headspace, I have used cannabis along with it during the come up.
Not a lot as I am a light user overall and keep my tolerance low, just a few puffs from a pocket sized dry herb vape is enough to give me what I need.

Last night for the first time I went in without smoking. 1.16-1.2 g of Zapotecorum.
I gotta say the OEV/CEV were nowhere near close to the intensity of my last trip at 1q of the same zaps.
Last time the ghostly geometry was shifting on the shower walls and the aether of the universe was gently dancing in the upper reaches of my room.
The bright multicolor laser like grid when I closed my eyes was all encompassing to the sound of high pitched frequency and music.

This time, the visuals barely scratched the surface.
Although the clouds were going fucking nuts haha

I’ve heard people say that they don’t mix the two because cannabis can seriously potentate the effects or even that they dull the visuals.

I can always eat more, but, just curious as to what your guys experiences are?


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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Soloist] * 1
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I find it a good idea to always have cannabis around during a trip. It helps bring a sense of security when under high stress. Very important. :cheers:

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Aloe52]
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Last week, 4 hours into a 3.6g trip I smoked a big fat joint. Fucked it all to hell, thought I gave myself schizophrenia for a second, recovered, but then got scared of a stack of books and turned the lights off to appease the scary books. Good times.

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Soloist] * 3
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i am finding that tripping without weed in my system is far less anxious. up until recently i had always tripped with weed, but now i see starkly the difference it makes without. much cleaner feeling. oftentimes i would find that smoking would bring on panic or a comedown rather than potentiate anything positive.

the low key anxiety from tripping with thc in my system is what was holding me back from attempting larger doses. now i feel like its a whole new drug to explore again. weed is a false friend, at least from my point of view

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Belome]
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islandsss said:
Last week, 4 hours into a 3.6g trip I smoked a big fat joint. Fucked it all to hell, thought I gave myself schizophrenia for a second, recovered, but then got scared of a stack of books and turned the lights off to appease the scary books. Good times.

:dawerp:



How did it fuck it? Did it affect the quality of visuals as well?


Belome said:
i am finding that tripping without weed in my system is far less anxious. up until recently i had always tripped with weed, but now i see starkly the difference it makes without. much cleaner feeling. oftentimes i would find that smoking would bring on panic or a comedown rather than potentiate anything positive.

the low key anxiety from tripping with thc in my system is what was holding me back from attempting larger doses. now i feel like its a whole new drug to explore again. weed is a false friend, at least from my point of view



Can I ask what you mean by cleaner? Also curious what your relationship was with cannabis, volume wise.
I hear you on the false friend thing. Although in my experience that is dose dependent and can be mitigated if one can find the proper context.
To much to often definitely makes it real easy to lead into a mental/emotional dependency.

Tbh I actually read something you posted the other day and that’s kinda what put the bug in my ear about not consuming while I tripped.
After a week of daily use I was getting a bit run down of it.

Edited by Soloist (09/24/26 08:00 PM)

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Soloist]
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apart from occasionally taking one or a few months off, every day for the past 22 years. full blown dependency as it allowed me to escape my real problems during a terrible time in my life and continued far past the point it was helpful to me. i don't want to repeat myself too much in every thread in TPE, there's more detail in this thread.

by 'cleaner' i mean less foggy, less creepy, not as much subtle sense of dread.

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Soloist] * 1
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It gave me nice visuals in the beginning, yes, which was cool and made me laugh uncontrollably. But as time went on it also made me get stuck in increasingly confusing, paranoid loops about "reality". It gave me a headache and I had to hang my head forward as the intensity and speed of my random, bizarre thoughts was slamming the shit out of me.

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: islandsss] * 1
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oh yes. weed is already incredibly good at filling your mind with a miasma of junk thoughts. combined with shrooms it goes into overdrive.

a couple years ago i found this chart that showed the risks involved with mixing various drugs with others, colour coded according to risk to health. the intersection of weed and shrooms was orange for high potential for panic attacks. at the time i thought that was a bit harsh of whoever put the graph together, but now i'm coming around to their point of view

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: islandsss] * 1
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While yes, weed has a strong tendency to cause panic attacks on psychedelics, I believe that it’s usually more related to dosage than anything else. Like the amount of weed in a fat joint is very excessive. While sober it’s relatively easy to get away with especiallly with a tolerance but under a psychedelic, weed tolerance basically disappears relatively speaking.

The first time I ever smoked weed, I smoked 1 1/2 bowls and I was convinced the moon was crashing down on me and we were all going to die that night. Everything looked like a cardboard cutout, etc. Anyways, people underestimate weed it’s not exactly a mild drug until it’s blown in excessive amounts daily. For me personally, every hit I take is equivalent to taking 5% more of whatever psych. So if I take like 10 hits on 2gs it’ll feel like I ate at least an eighth but now more dissociated as well.

Edited by Plurlife (10/04/26 07:29 AM)

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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Plurlife] * 1
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I had been reading medical papers on drug interactions and weed is suppose to boost the serotonin levels when used with drugs that increase the serotonin levels in the brain. My current medication increases serotonin and I wanted to know if it was safe to use mushrooms on top of the chemical mix I take every day. Sadly, I could not find any way to determine what is not a safe level for myself.


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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Bunny.12] * 1
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I usually don't smoke cannabis when I consume mushrooms as I don't enjoy the feeling of the headspace with them combined unless its a rather low dose (micro  to museum).

That being said I always consume cannabis when I use LSD as it greatly helps with the vasoconstriction I experience and also greatly helps mellow out the edginess of LSD that I sometimes run into


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Re: Tripping without cannabis? [Re: Plurlife]
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Plurlife said:
While yes, weed has a strong tendency to cause panic attacks on psychedelics, I believe that it’s usually more related to dosage than anything else. Like the amount of weed in a fat joint is very excessive. While sober it’s relatively easy to get away with especiallly with a tolerance but under a psychedelic, weed tolerance basically disappears relatively speaking.

The first time I ever smoked weed, I smoked 1 1/2 bowls and I was convinced the moon was crashing down on me and we were all going to die that night. Everything looked like a cardboard cutout, etc. Anyways, people underestimate weed it’s not exactly a mild drug until it’s blown in excessive amounts daily. For me personally, every hit I take is equivalent to taking 5% more of whatever psych. So if I take like 10 hits on 2gs it’ll feel like I ate at least an eighth but now more dissociated as well.



I usually smoke a single bowl from a pipe well after the comedown. Everytime I smoke a big joint on shrooms it goes somewhat sour but I still continue to do it occasionally out of overconfidence or stupidity or both.

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