GerryD said:

christopera said:

It’s not bullshit at all.

Christian’s love fake Christian’s, they just don’t love to be called out on it. There’s nothing more reassuring than seeing other people faking it to make you feel good about faking it too.

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To some extent it doesn’t even matter how much Trump pretends to be Christian.  Evangelicals are more than happy to project their supposed values onto him whether he is actively faking them or not.

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lowbrow said:

Sounds like a good time to me

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HagbardCeline said:

lowbrow said:

Sounds like a good time to me

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Dogs think the same things when they try to cross highways and get splattered. When one lacks the faculties necessary to grasp the intricacies of the situation, undeserved confidence abounds.

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lowbrow said:

HagbardCeline said:

lowbrow said:

Sounds like a good time to me

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Dogs think the same things when they try to cross highways and get splattered. When one lacks the faculties necessary to grasp the intricacies of the situation, undeserved confidence abounds.

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There’s no intricacies of the situation, just words on a screen with no receipts.

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sudly said:

GerryD said:

What do you think of Jon Ossoff and Pete Buttigieg?

They’re more moderate or centrist democrat but they’re both very good communicators and no-nonsense.  Ossoff has a relatively wide range of support even in a right leaning state like Georgia.  Buttigieg… I hate to say it but I don’t know if a gay man can win in a general election.

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Buttigieg appears to be a corporatist at heart and pro-isralie.

I don't think Ossef is, and right now, not supporting Zionism is a litmus test.

That said, the point is that conflating being anti Zionist or anti Israel with being antisemetic is wrong.

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Brian Jones said:

sudly said:

GerryD said:

What do you think of Jon Ossoff and Pete Buttigieg?

They’re more moderate or centrist democrat but they’re both very good communicators and no-nonsense.  Ossoff has a relatively wide range of support even in a right leaning state like Georgia.  Buttigieg… I hate to say it but I don’t know if a gay man can win in a general election.

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Buttigieg appears to be a corporatist at heart and pro-isralie.

I don't think Ossef is, and right now, not supporting Zionism is a litmus test.

That said, the point is that conflating being anti Zionist or anti Israel with being antisemetic is wrong.

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As far as I can tell, they have the same policy on Israel; Carte blanche on defensive weapons and no on supplying offensive weapons. Expect this to be the dominant position in the Democratic Party (for now at least). The perception that Ossoff is not supporting Zionism comes from push back from Jewish organizations in Georgia, nationally, and in Israel, when he (a Jew) voted for those limitations. In other respects he'e a strong supporter of Israel. He's voted for massive funding in general for Israel, and has received almost a million dollars of support from Jewish orgs., just not Aipac.

Ossoff is the better centrist at selling himself to voters who lean a little more left, and seemingly done so without offending those a little more right;as you said, a wide range of support. IMO he's good at politics which is a very big thing, but more style than substance differentiating himself from the other centrists.

Had a lot more to say, but too late now, except to be fair:
Mayor Pete started in the middle class and still is. Ossoff started as fairly rich, has expanded on that, but has shown integrity with the money and coauthored a bill as Senator to require all of Congress to put their stocks into a blind trust. as he and only 9 other members of Congress have done.

I think Ossoff is a good politician, a winner, and one of the younger power brokers who would work against dividing the party
on center/left grounds.

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HagbardCeline said:

lowbrow said:

Sounds like a good time to me

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Dogs think the same things when they try to cross highways and get splattered. When one lacks the faculties necessary to grasp the intricacies of the situation, undeserved confidence abounds.

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This is too good

pugster said:

Jonathan pie on the ball again

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Goddamn... This guy sounds like an angry American patriot, more than any fuckin MAGtard

HagbardCeline said:

lowbrow said:

HagbardCeline said:

lowbrow said:

Sounds like a good time to me

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Dogs think the same things when they try to cross highways and get splattered. When one lacks the faculties necessary to grasp the intricacies of the situation, undeserved confidence abounds.

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There’s no intricacies of the situation, just words on a screen with no receipts.

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There are. You just don't have the ability to perceive, contextualize or evaluate with competence.

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You made the claim, you provide the receipts, you know how this works

Bigbadwooof said:

Anyways, I dont wanna make a 3rd post, but I came here to share this clip of John Stewart pwning Donald Trump. It's pretty great:

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Bigbadwooof said:

My grandmother (A church going, bible thumping Christian her whole life) reeeally didn't like Trump, and I believe she didn't vote for him jn 2016, but in 2020 she said, "I just don't care whether or not he really is a Christian. I know he will fight to overturn Row v Wade, and that's what I care about."

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Bigbadwooof said:

More child abuse from the Trump administration. Fed gov does not offer legal representation for migrant children... So the judge ends up directly addressing children who can't even talk yet.

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vicepope said:

To be fair the same shit was happening before to the point John Oviler ran story on this about a decade ago.

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That video is from the first Trump administration...

To be fair...

vicepope said:

It was still a problem since bush Jr. Im annoyed that people believe trump is smart enough to be this evil. My solution is move all the immigration children to Montana until their 18.

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I'm sure Montana would welcome millions of immigrant children being dumped on them...

You're right, Trump isn't very bright at all. He thinks there were airports in the revolutionary war... I do believe that, at least at some point, there were smart people involved in MAGA's agenda 2025, though. These ideas were not all Trump's.

Bigbadwooof said:

More child abuse from the Trump administration. Fed gov does not offer legal representation for migrant children... So the judge ends up directly addressing children who can't even talk yet.

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Talk about an easy win