Nitram_1996 said:

Hi, well here's my issue.

Context : So far i did truffles 4 times since last april and i never did psychedelics before this. My purpose is to deal with this universe that i'm very interested in since last year in depth (my friends did put me into it and i'm really excited and enthousiastic about this).

I'm often anxious as hell for anything in normal life, like most of the time i feel like this is my body in itself that gets stressed when it decides to be (at least this is what i feel it's like). And usually my heart hurts and beats hard, i can feel it at different levels while i'm tripping and sometimes after (like during five days after my pretty intense second trip).

It's weird because i consider my trips were objectively good and deep (ofc not so revolutionary at this point but still), there was nothing really negative in my eyes and set and setting were good (well not the second time). But there was always a moment when i had enough and wanted this to end, or even felt trapped for 2-3 seconds, it's always hard to me to be like "no worries, relax, everything is good and lose yourself" at such moments.

I know shrooms in themselves are obviously not guilty, i'd say my insane anxiety creates a shit cocktail when i'm tripping, can't be sure but i'm guessing something like that. I just wish this part goes better.

So, i don't wanna talk about anxiety issues in general but wonder if do you guys think there's any way to end or at least limitate this while tripping ? Or maybe i'm not a good person for it which would make me a bit sad ?


Thank you and take care.

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there was always a moment when i had enough and wanted this to end

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When I started tripping, I could probably say this ^^ about most of my trips. I felt anxious (especially during the onset), had some really tough trips complete with panic attacks and THE FEAR, thought I was dying on a few occasions... some very intense experiences. I would often feel nervous before the trip, remembering aspects of the last one...

Most of this was preventable (I could have just lowered the dose and avoided 90% of this) but I was fascinated by the interior of the trips and wanted to keep exploring. The anxiety was usually confined to the onset and just before the peak, after which there would be an equally extreme euphoria, and the whole trip was a bit of a roller-coaster, which scared the shit out of me at the same time as making me come back for more.

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I think one lesson of this was to accept that it's OK to feel anxious during a trip, and not think of it as something to be completely eliminated. It's almost like getting rid of the anxiety requires you to stop worrying about whether you get anxious or not - it's a normal reaction to an experience that can feel very weird.

I think the real question is whether you find the trips are worth it, even when you know that parts of the trip will be uncomfortable and difficult. It would be a bit different if you thought the psychedelics were actually causing all the problems with anxiety in your life - but if you are generally an anxious person with or without psychedelics, don't let that stop you from tripping if you find it worthwhile.

To take psychedelics, you don't need to be the kind of person who has no fear and no anxiety - you just need to find them fascinating enough that you take them anyway, even though the experience is sometimes difficult.

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It's impossible to give advice that makes anxiety and negative emotions  magically disappear during a trip, but sometimes it helps to say "fuck it" and just let the trip take over, even when this feels unpleasant. It's like you commit to the trip and say "whatever happens, happens."

Sometimes, the release of tension can reduce the anxiety - even accepting your worst fears within the trip (like thinking you are dying) can sometimes make the panic and anxiety go away.

If you are mostly getting physical symptoms of anxiety without really experiencing anything negative in the trip itself, that would be more tricky to fix, but getting more familiar with the psychedelic headspace over time can lessen overall feelings of anxiety.

If you value the trips and find them worthwhile, then maybe just keep going and see if the tripping anxiety reduces over time (it did for me).

Nitram_1996 said:

Hi, well here's my issue.

Context : So far i did truffles 4 times since last april and i never did psychedelics before this. My purpose is to deal with this universe that i'm very interested in since last year in depth (my friends did put me into it and i'm really excited and enthousiastic about this).

I'm often anxious as hell for anything in normal life, like most of the time i feel like this is my body in itself that gets stressed when it decides to be (at least this is what i feel it's like). And usually my heart hurts and beats hard, i can feel it at different levels while i'm tripping and sometimes after (like during five days after my pretty intense second trip).

It's weird because i consider my trips were objectively good and deep (ofc not so revolutionary at this point but still), there was nothing really negative in my eyes and set and setting were good (well not the second time). But there was always a moment when i had enough and wanted this to end, or even felt trapped for 2-3 seconds, it's always hard to me to be like "no worries, relax, everything is good and lose yourself" at such moments.

I know shrooms in themselves are obviously not guilty, i'd say my insane anxiety creates a shit cocktail when i'm tripping, can't be sure but i'm guessing something like that. I just wish this part goes better.

So, i don't wanna talk about anxiety issues in general but wonder if do you guys think there's any way to end or at least limitate this while tripping ? Or maybe i'm not a good person for it which would make me a bit sad ?


Thank you and take care.

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fttuon said:

Which psychedelics do you tolerate better than mushrooms?

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Asante said:

There is a very simple answer to this: Shrooms and psychedelics are anxiogenic, meaning they raise your anxiety levels just like valium-like drugs lower them.

If you are a person prone to strong anxiety, shrooms without fail will give you anxiety issues during especially the first half of the trip.

Psychedelics are not for everyone.

Many people, especially those who’ve been through a lot, find shrooms bring out the worst of their anxiety without regard to the psychological content of the trip.

You can have a “great trip”  but feekl shitty throughout it.
Whether thats worth it is highly personal.
For me it isn’t.

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ellamush said:

Also OP, is your heart/chest literally hurting? And heart rate up?

If so you should have that checked out by a doctor
Heart rate up during stress is normal. Chest pain is not.

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Nitram_1996 said:

ellamush said:

Also OP, is your heart/chest literally hurting? And heart rate up?

If so you should have that checked out by a doctor
Heart rate up during stress is normal. Chest pain is not.

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Well in such "stressful" case in general, my heart beats fast and/or strong (since for ever).

About pain, sometimes the difference between "pain" and "unpleasant" is very slim to my mind, i think it happened already, in any case this is extremely rare, idk. Maybe i do mean something more like "uncomfortable" ? i'm not even sure.

I know myself by heart even though your post triggered me a bit lol. I'm 30 by the way.

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