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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: MushroomBilly]
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MushroomBilly said:
I tried it with moclobemide and had a sinister episode with delusional thoughts and paranoia. The mushroom is just what nature intended - psychedelic perfection - why mess with it? If you want more intensity, just eat more.


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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: spacechimp]
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"MushroomBilly said:
I tried it with moclobemide and had a sinister episode with delusional thoughts and paranoia. The mushroom is just what nature intended - psychedelic perfection - why mess with it? If you want more intensity, just eat more."

Using Moclobemide isn't Psilohuasca, you have to use the Harmalas.


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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Sabnock]
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My fiancée is gonna be trying Psilohuasca tomorrow. We've tried aya and well... She's a new person for me to cook for, usually takes me 2-3 tries to get it perfect for the person im cooking for, the first two aya attempts were kinda weak, and she now thinks ayahuasca is just like that, extreme prepping and little tripping.

So wild grown mushrooms im thinking like 7-10 grams plus the b caapi vine will be nice, might just give her a half oz. I was gonna try mescahuasca again but im not sure if that will be worth it as the dmt and mescaline seem to fight over which one actually takes hold and makes me trip (seems like mescaline always wins maybe I need to vape some deem or brew the aya better


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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Mike4aco]
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Wooow 10g dried cubensis and maoi?

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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They are wild shrooms. 5 grams was kind of ok but nothing spectacular


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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Mike4aco]
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Some wild shrooms are way stronger than cubensis.

I know a guy who (against my advice) took 12g cubensis dried and 3g rue, he was far out, he would hug us then push us and acts violently, talking nonsense and about seeing planets and galaxies and over all he was sooo weird.
The next day he told us that he thought that he died and he was seeing god and the angels and they were deciding if he should go to heaven or hell by showing him his life and the things he has done.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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The next day he told us that he thought that he died and he was seeing god and the angels and they were deciding if he should go to heaven or hell by showing him his life and the things he has done.


typical psychedelic experience :laugh:

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: infectedstyle]
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infectedstyle said:
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The next day he told us that he thought that he died and he was seeing god and the angels and they were deciding if he should go to heaven or hell by showing him his life and the things he has done.


typical psychedelic experience :laugh:


I find this thing about "hell" to be strange though. I have heard of multiple people getting something like this but none of my psychedelic experiences have ever come close..
My experiences with psychedelics have only shown me that hell doesn't exist. It's weird that people who take psychedelics still get this.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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According to nearly all religions hell/hell realms do exist.

But it could also has to do with your upbringing and your religious background, however i have seen before gods from different religions while tripping that i have never seen or read about before only to find later that that they do exist in certain religions, i think its a mystery as most things when it comes to shrooms :shrug:.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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oontribe said:
According to nearly all religions hell/hell realms do exist.

But it could also has to do with your upbringing and your religious background, however i have seen before gods from different religions while tripping that i have never seen or read about before only to find later that that they do exist in certain religions, i think its a mystery as most things when it comes to shrooms :shrug:.


I never see stuff from religions in my trips it's always much more alien and unorthodox than that. Also nearly all religions are bullshit to me so saying nearly all religions have a hell realm doesn't really convince me. Biologically speaking the concept of hell doesn't even make sense or seem possible, biology IS hell so without it (once you die) how can there be anything like that? Makes no sense, not to mention psychedelics like mushrooms have specifically told me over and over again that not only does hell not exist but we all go to the same place when we die. The only "hell" you'll face is here on earth, maybe that's what these religions messed up on.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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I see lots of gods and alians on shrooms.

Everyone got his point of view when it comes to religion.

You are REINCARNATED with another form in the hell realms or hell (thats how religions put it).

It doesn't sound fair at all that we all go to the same place when we die.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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Psychedelics can make you belief anywhere is really hell. That's why set and setting is so huge for me. If ur not in the most warm place possible. It's just cold. I thought I died from an overdose of lsd and was in hell. It was such a reckless choice to take 1.5 mg of lsd with no experience on no sleep. I feel like it's punishment hence, when you have died ur reality is in control by the 'controlers' who rule ur trips. and they really were just contemplating if he is going to get rewards for good actions or bad actions (karma) in his life. The ego-less part of self just kind of takes the wheel at that point. But that is exactly what you sign up for when you take huge amounts of psychedelics.

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It doesn't sound fair at all that we all go to the same place when we die.



It's not really supposed to be a competition is it

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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oontribe said:
I see lots of gods and alians on shrooms.

Everyone got his point of view when it comes to religion.

You are REINCARNATED with another form in the hell realms or hell (thats how religions put it).

It doesn't sound fair at all that we all go to the same place when we die.


I came across a unique and interesting heaven and hell theory in a far out anime recently. It has a lot of bhuddist influences but anyways they believe in many planes of existence. We live on a neutral plane and there exist many higher and lower planes of "heaven" and "hell".

The way we live and think raises or lowers our soul/ consciousness so that when we die it will ascend or descend. Demons and angels are essentially entities that exist in higher or lower planes of existence.

Buddhists believe no one will be fully enlightened until everyone is so bodisatvas choose to be riencarnated and help their fellow souls reach enlightenment. Bhuddists also believe in special planes of existence ruled to various Bodhisattva's who have earned their own realms through various noble deeds.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: musiclover420] * 1
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@infectedstyle its not competition but hitler will be in the same place as dalai lama!
According to Hinduism all will reach moshka at the end but for some it will take lots of lives and suffering.
In Judaism all will go to heaven but they will stay in the purgatory and how long it depends on your sins.
But what make sense to me is some will disappear from existance as if they have never been borned and many more other things because god is infinity and anything you can think of and even can't think of might happen.

@musiclover what you said is in the mahayana branch in budhhism.

And according to budhhism and also Hinduism some will suffer in the lower realms or hell realms for a number of years that man can't count till they finish their karma, and even good people who spend their time in the higher realms or the gods realms will eventually die and reborned again.
Only the paranirvana where you will live forever and to reach it you must follow the teachings of budhha.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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@oontribe

wow that blew my mind, I dont particularly like the idea that some souls take the bus to heaven and others the bus to purgatory or something.. I think if it's something it's a collective effort. What if the souls retreat back into the earth and are judged there by the entire connected minds of all the souls that have been before. this means hitler is judged with perfect knowledge of his entire life-progress by all the jews he killed who also retain the knowledge of all their ancestry and prophets. Forgiveness might actually be imminent. I read in the baghavad gita that the individual soul actually is eternal. That means hitler is eternal and can't really be removed. But his actions are not his soul. After some amount of forging in the alchemical earth he is refreshed and put back into the system. He might just be alive right now. I woulden't want to know what kind of trip he went through in there. Considering the shit I went through. And I thought I was a good guy.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: infectedstyle]
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Yea karma and reincarnations.

On my last psilohuasca trip i have went through my past lives and how it lead to my current life.

And also saw the past lives of other people i love.

Not everyone can know about his past lives but psychedelics can show you that.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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oontribe said:
I see lots of gods and alians on shrooms.


The things I see are definitely mystical and divine but nothing "religious" nothing from orthodox forms of spirituality.



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It doesn't sound fair at all that we all go to the same place when we die.


That's actually the very definition of fair.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Sabnock]
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I don't see a killer going to the same place as the saint.
At least the killer has to pay for his actions in some way or another.

Or what is the meaning of livinga moralistic life, anyone can do anything because it's the same in the end.

Sabnock said:
"MushroomBilly said:
I tried it with moclobemide and had a sinister episode with delusional thoughts and paranoia. The mushroom is just what nature intended - psychedelic perfection - why mess with it? If you want more intensity, just eat more."

Using Moclobemide isn't Psilohuasca, you have to use the Harmalas.


:whathesaid:

And haramalas don't only make the trip last longer but they become stronger and it doesn't feel like youe regular mushrooms trip but an entire new substance (psilohuasca).

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
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oontribe said:
I don't see a killer going to the same place as the saint.


That's the thing though; I do. I think it may hurt their soul because hurting someone else is hurting you as well but I think karma penetrating into the next life is BS. I believe in some form of "karma" but imo that's just part of this reality/life. After this life is over karma will no longer be a thing, at least that's what I think.



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At least the killer has to pay for his actions in some way or another.


Not necessarily. That's just wishful thinking and there's honestly no reason to assume that.



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Or what is the meaning of livinga moralistic life, anyone can do anything because it's the same


Maybe their soul will have more knowledge or something who knows :shrug:

I just see not murdering and living "morally" as a biological upside with the contrary being a biological failure.

At the end of the day we're just animals. Hyenas are fucking dicks to their prey but I don't believe hyenas are going to another realm that puppies and saints aren't going to.

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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
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What a nihilistic view...

It doesn't make sense to me, and based on my mushrooms trips and religious knowledge i have to disagree with you.

And death is the black hole of life, no one came back to tell us how it is, we will see...

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