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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: Locus]
    #7581916 - 10/31/07 08:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If you read up about the effects that vitamine c has on a sober mind you can get a good clue about what it does to a person who is tripping.

It has a calming effect.

Orange juice has plenty of suger which can enhance the effects.
Orange juice is pretty acidic and helps with absorbtion.

Vitamine c is a whole nother story.


Vitamine c is nothing more than comforting or placebo for a tripping or sober mind.
This can make you feel like you are tripping harder, or tripping in a less intense way.

End of story.
The effects vitamine c has on the body and mind is well documented.
The facts reflect the opinions of those who think that it just promotes a smoother trip.
When it comes to this subject people need to understand that orange juice and pure vitamine c is completely different when it comes to tripping.


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Re: Vitamin c potentiates tripping..? [Re: Left Nut City]
    #9095246 - 10/18/08 06:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah that is definitely flase. I have oj with every time i trip, and i've only seen great results


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Re: Vitamin c potentiates tripping..? [Re: Ripple]
    #9095672 - 10/18/08 12:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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It will kill your trip!  Just drinking orange juce will reduce your trip level. 




This is completely false.  People will eat shrooms ground in orange juice and still trip.  Many people have drank orange juice and not come down (one commonly recommended activity for shrooms or acid is to eat citrus fruits).  Please don't spread around unsubstantiated and EASILY REFUTABLE bullshit.

Vitamin C is not known to abort a trip nor to make a trip more potent.

Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is known to stabilize solutions of psilocin.  (Hasler et al., 1997).

My guess is that either the vitamin c MYTH was made up out of thin air or someone found out that ascorbic acid would prevent degradation of psilocin and somewhere along the way the fact that ascorbic acid can prevent premature loss of psilocin was confused with or considered equivalent to "vitamin c results in more potent trips."


There is also some indication that very large doses (500 mg/kg) of ascorbic acid can alter behavioural responses due to dopamine receptor activity of LSD in cats, but nothing to the extent of aborting trips.

What I find really bizarre, is that some of the vitamin C myths are "it makes you trip harder" and others are "it aborts a trip."  The myth of vitamin C isn't consistent in itself.

Hasler F, Bourquin D, Brenneisen R, Bär T, and Vollenweider FX.  Determination of psilocin and 4-hydroxyindole-3-acetic acid in plasma by HPLC-ECD and pharmacokinetic profiles of oral and intravenous psilocybin in man.  Pharm Acta Helv.  72, pp. 175 - 184.  (1997)


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: Anonymous]
    #10169730 - 04/15/09 09:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well i once had 30 libs in orange juice.(let em soak for half and hour)  it was the second heaviest trip of my life (after 100 libs).  i forgot who i was... then i became thoughts.. then i thought about enlightenment and became that.  kept seeing this buddhist-y shaman-y guy with a wierd hat. 

it was amazing. so i would say orange juice potentates trips yeah. lol

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: PaddyCuinne]
    #10182759 - 04/17/09 05:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Orange juice is acidic, psilocin breaks down in an alkaline environment so you want to avoid that.  For this reason a lot of people blend up their fresh shroomies in orange juice.  It's also a fairly pleasant way to ingest them.

Orange juice also contains ascorbic acid (vitamin C) which is a powerful antioxidant.  This prevents the oxidation of psilocin to psilocybeen.

You can demonstrate this easily.  Just place some fresh shroomies in some water and mash them about a bit.  The water will turn blue to deep blue/purple.  Now add a tiny bit of ascorbic acid (get it at a health food co-op or crush up a vitamin C pill).  Watch as the solution turns from blue to clear again.

It is unclear weather the psilocybeen turns back into psilocin, but it will prevent it from oxidizing in the first place.


Sorry for the crosspost, but I see all kinds of vit C misinformation all over.  Anything that reduces the breakdown of psilocin could be said to increase the intensity of a trip.  It's easily demonstrated that ascorbic acid prevents the oxidation of psilocin.  It's quite likely that it also works in the stomach and keeps the psilocin intact longer, which will result in more of it being absorbed into your system.  Having good levels of antioxidants in your system could also possibly help slow the breakdown of it once it's in your bloodstream.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: Anonymous]
    #13347656 - 10/17/10 12:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Vitamin C kills the bad stuff in your body. Like toxins bacteria...ect

Vitamin C kills my high

orange juice sometimes works in my opinion is because its acidy, n on a empty stomache it makes my stomache acid bubble, and gets me wayyyyy more high in my opinion.

Crazy mind fuck and visuals if you grind your shrooms into dust and pour it into a cup of squeezed lemon juice, let it sit, and stir, for 15 minutes. Take it like a shot. And you will be thinking twice about dosage next time.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: PeyotePro] * 1
    #13526575 - 11/22/10 10:24 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I'd like to finally PUT AN END TO THIS DEBATE :
Vitamin C helps drugs cross the blood brain barrier, (will help the magic get to your brain better :thumbup: )

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1794-vitamin-c-could-help-drugs-cross-bloodbrain-barrier.html


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: heroshaman]
    #13526792 - 11/22/10 10:57 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I've always heard that the whole point of lemon-teking mushrooms, or mixing them into OJ, is because the ascorbic acid (vit c) converts the psilocybin into psilocin..which is what your body does anyway, only this saves it the time..thus making the trip come on faster and stronger, but not last quite as long.

Just what i've heard millions of times, sorry if its been said already.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: heroshaman]
    #13953893 - 02/13/11 01:31 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

heroshaman said:
I'd like to finally PUT AN END TO THIS DEBATE :
Vitamin C helps drugs cross the blood brain barrier, (will help the magic get to your brain better :thumbup: )

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1794-vitamin-c-could-help-drugs-cross-bloodbrain-barrier.html




Thank you sir.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: ichiban333]
    #13953989 - 02/13/11 02:09 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I know that vitamin C added to a hot solution of dmt N oxide will reduce it to DMT. If it can reverse the effect on DMT, it likely can protect psilocin from degradation too.

If it turns the solution from blue to clear that is an obvious sign that it may also regenerate psilocin that has oxidized. Two psilicin molecules oxidize at the OH bonds that form a trptamine indoline analog that is the blue stuff. If it goes clear than the vitamin C is likely grabbing the bridging oxygen and splitting it back into 2 molecules of psilocin! It would be VERY interesting if someone will test this.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #21315731 - 02/23/15 02:13 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

After trips I will suck down gallons of orange juice in my sleep over the next week to recover my brain.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21942223 - 07/14/15 04:19 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Whenever I take shroom tea, I have headaches the next day. And I mean terrible-terrible, head-splitting ones along with noticeable general physical fatigue. I once had 500mg of vitamin C with tea and another 500mg on afterglow. Seemed to eliminate the hangover almost completely. Did anyone notice anything like that?


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: Rhiozan]
    #25947967 - 04/21/19 07:53 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Does the fact that OJ and fruit taste good mean that your experience is enhanced?


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: goffa]
    #25948684 - 04/22/19 08:55 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I've done it several times before(not for purposes of enhancing a trip, i just love fucking oj). But honestly, I possibly may think that's placebo.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? (Official FAQ thread) [Re: Anonymous]
    #27196508 - 02/10/21 01:14 AM (7 months, 13 days ago)

Adding my experience to this as a warning perhaps that vitamin c for me left me with extreme nausea and a taste of vitamin c for hours (currently 3 hours post drinking and still tasting vitamin c). I feel the possible potentiation is negated by the side effects in my case. I had about 500mg on an empty stomach and based on this won't add ascorbic acid again. The nausea is overwhelming and long-lasting: it should have long gone by now but it looks like I'm stuck with it for the duration of the mushroom effects. Really rather unpleasant and the taste is still in my mouth despite a litre of water and very gentle and light brushing my teeth with a small amount of toothpaste to remove any residue. Granted I have a problem with gas and take alpha-galactosidase but the nausea seems in addition to what is normally ameliorated by the digestive enzymes: it's on top of the digestive discomfort I've come to expect and seems caused by the vitamin c.

I had about 60g - 70g fresh and feel as though the experience was overshadowed and overburdened by the nausea making me waste the experience that's nearing its end (focusing on the intense sickness whilst heavy tripping, possibly with the potentiated psilocybin and psilocin is pretty gnarly and can lead me to some hopeless places).

All in all, I'm happy with larger doses of 100g fresh (12g dried) but not with the ascorbic acid. The visuals are almost hazy, covered by a layer of grey fog rather than being sharp and occupying. It's almost like the addition of vitamin c to the tea has placed a layer of discomfort and mist between me and the effects.


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