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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #5160502 - 01/09/06 10:23 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I've only done Shrooms once and had a bad trip. I am planning to try a second time on Feb 2nd.. Man this thread is concerning me because im hearing, "Shrooms and OJ/Vitamin C definately intensify", then theres the, "OJ/Vitamin C will reduce the trip intensity or end the trip". So basically what is being recorded onto my mind is that it will fuck with the trip some how? However, I planned to take both Orange Juice and Vitamin C before the trip before reading this thread because I read a valuable quote once on tripping, and it went something like this--
"It has been proven that the Vitamin C combined with Mushrooms is simply placebo to make you trip harder. If that is the truth, then I am sure as hell taking my Vitamin C!"

The point is that whether Vitamin C potentiates or weakens the trip is irrelevant. If you think that it destroys the trip, then perhaps while you are having a bad trip and chug a couple glasses, you will believe that you are coming down and help calm yourself?

Just a speculation/thought on the matter.

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #7576959 - 10/30/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

From reading this whole thread.. i got my own idea..

if you eat candy or drink OJ.. you have those taste sensations in your mouth.

how often in our lives do we eat candy and hate it? we always like it and its always comforting.. the same goes for oj, which i assume we dont chug all day long, but drink it occasionally (and usually feel good)..

Its something i believe not everyone will understand.

The thing with the elevated trip lvl on OJ or w/e is probably due to the same affect. You feel good with the sensation in your mouth.. on shrooms, if you are suddenly happy.. the trip gets insanely wonderful!

im thinking that christmas cookies or gingerbread could be very good aswell (if you know why.. then you understand what i mean)

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Well... When I drunk tea with suggar I was down after 10 minutes. Hallucinations stopped - 100% effective... BUT when I saw surrealistic picture all hallucinations where back and ONLY on that picture. Everything besides it - was 100% stable. So...?




you were def still on the trip, but stable. Tea is very calming, and on shrooms thats probably multiplied..


who knows... (cares)

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: Perfect_Slayer]
    #7576970 - 10/30/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

a good grateful dead cd will help a bad trip. check out archive.org

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: sleepy] * 1
    #7577197 - 10/30/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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a good grateful dead cd will help everything. check out archive.org




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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7577281 - 10/30/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The acid in OJ intensifies, eating a lot (apparently sugar especially) definatly pushes the active drug out of your system faster.

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7577317 - 10/30/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

this is ridiculous. we still have no definitive information on this subject. my thoughts... probably bogus on both ends.. i really dunno.. which is ridiculous.. we should know this by now! haha

and the lemon juice/acidic experiment as well... i tried that myself and had no potentiation increase despite the overwhelming amount of claims concerning that it does work well. so as far as potentiating with acidic juices or vitamin c and such id say its a no go, but i dont know for sure. and i will experiment further in the future but again i think its a no. the only thing i know for sure is that maois potentiate psychedelics, thats the only thing i know of that potentiates for sure. so thats all i have to say about that for now :smile:


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: Locus]
    #7577341 - 10/30/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

OJ worked for me... i suppose someone should do definitive "trials".


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: haymaker]
    #7577391 - 10/30/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I doubt this is something you can solve by trying. Set and setting will have so much more effect on your trip then vitamin C. While you can replicate setting, you'll never be able to have the same set again. It's most likely placebo, not that's there is anything wrong with placebo though. So until someone does scientific research, there is really no point in doing the "intensifies! brings you down!"-dance.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: bmy]
    #7577405 - 10/30/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I doubt this is something you can solve by trying. Set and setting will have so much more effect on your trip then vitamin C. While you can replicate setting, you'll never be able to have the same set again. It's most likely placebo, not that's there is anything wrong with placebo though. So until someone does scientific research, there is really no point in doing the "intensifies! brings you down!"-dance.




thats a very good answer. aslong as it "works" for me, im game for it.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: haymaker]
    #7577437 - 10/30/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yepp... we will never know until we have scientific research. and i think thats what it comes down to, unfortunately. but its not that big of a deal anyway! :smile: ...tolerance will always be present either way and you can always avoid that tolerance by using sparingly and you can always have more or less shrooms or take an maoi if need be... (maoi depending on if your on ssri meds/food intake) :smile: so really it doesnt matter much anyway


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: Locus]
    #7578734 - 10/30/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if the lemon juice method has been proven to potentiate shroom trips then why would it be so hard to believe that its possible with oranges/vitamin C to an extent as well?


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: elcharrosays]
    #7578902 - 10/30/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i heard that OJ intensifies your trip, and dairy products kill it. Has anyone else heard anything about dairy stopping trips? Also i heard about some pills that they gave to people who came into the ER having a psychotic episode, and that the pill could kill a trip. Apparently the pill just blocks the serotonin receptors and that kills the trip. Has anyone else heard of that, or does it at least sound plausible?

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: lysergic25]
    #7578959 - 10/30/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What I read was that dairy products block the enzymes in your stomach from properly metabolizing the psilocin and psilocybin. I don't know about actually stopping a trip but having a good bit in your stomach prior to ingestion probably wouldn't be a good idea.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: elcharrosays]
    #7579012 - 10/30/07 11:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Those pills i was talking about are called Risperidone and they block the 5-HT2A serotonin receptor (one of the receptors triggered by acid and shrooms), killing a trip. there are a few other types of anti psychotics that do the same thing (chlorpromazine, haloperidol) but i think risperidone is the one they use in hospitals now. From the erowids experience vaults on risperidone it doesn't seem very pleasant, but its probably better than a bad trip.

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: lysergic25]
    #7579628 - 10/31/07 07:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've never taken it, but from what i hear giving Risperidone and similar products to someone who's having a bad trip is equivalent to putting a straight jacket on someone in the midst of psychosis. Not a very pleasant way to deal with the matter at all...

If you're really having a tough time try a benzo

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: elcharrosays]
    #7579797 - 10/31/07 08:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it has not been proven.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: Locus]
    #7581177 - 10/31/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i thought thorazine was common to be used or was that a very long time ago?


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: elcharrosays]
    #7581748 - 10/31/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, if you have a bad trip, you don't wanna go to the hospital. those meds are not pleasant and your trip will be over soon enough, you won't die, and most people learn great things from bad trips

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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: elcharrosays]
    #7581793 - 10/31/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what does that have to do with anything? thats an antipsychotic.


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Re: Vitamin C potentiates tripping? [Re: Locus]
    #7581906 - 10/31/07 06:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

whoever said they take chocolate cuz its a MAOi, im afraid that isn't true. Erowid says that its just a myth... If you want to prove Erowid wrong, go ahead.


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