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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: deadmandave]
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did all my liquid culture die off about a year ago because i neglected to add an air exchange valve on the jar lids? if i add one now, will they revive?


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: ellomello] * 3
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Shake one up and put a bit to agar. I'll bet it revives within a week or two and you can make more. Might work directly on grain too, but you may have to wait longer (and agar is less work in case it actually is dead).

I have never used a gas exchange hole on LC. But I use low nutrient broth - 0.2% - and leave a lot of head space. And I've also stored small amounts of colonized LC in 2ml cryovials with hardly any head space at all, and those have revived for me on agar well after one year.


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: Phaethon]
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So my oyster was on for a while, it flattened out. Is it still good to eat, or maybe dry to eat later?


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: hidingbush]
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Still good to eat or dry

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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: deadmandave] * 1
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Golden oyster from wild clone. I assume this isn't healthy myc? I had to cabin some real ugly shit to even get this far.



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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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Not quite, definitely needs some more clean up:mushroom:


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: Agar Wedge]
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Agar Wedge said:
Not quite, definitely needs some more clean up:mushroom:


Figured as much. I'd think the myc should look like other oysters, but I think I'm making progress anyway! Thanks homie! 🫂


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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Can I bucket tek straw for pasteurization? Just like coir?


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: noomer]
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21676522

According to this thread, no. But it has this thread here called the improved bucket tek,

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19907089/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/5

That could help you out. Straw needs more controls than coir.


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: hidingbush]
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What is the best way to cultivate King Oyster without using bags?


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: noomer] * 1
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They have been done in tubs.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27764703#27764703

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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: noomer] * 2
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Bottle culture is pretty nice too. Just make the substrate you want, fill quart jars or containers, bore 2-inch holes through the middle, cover with a filtered lid, sterilize, and pour in grain spawn or sawdust spawn after cooling. Takes longer to colonize than bags since you can't fully mix the spawn in. Basically just take the lids off (and keep them humid conditions) to fruit when colonized.

I have only done this with pearl oysters (and not well since I didn't put them in a humidified tent). But with kings, you can put a collar around the top when fruiting to keep the CO2 level higher and encourage fatter stems.

See https://freshcap.com/blogs/growing/growing-mushrooms-in-bottles


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: Phaethon]
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Struggling with turkey tail.  Ive tried twice growing spawn on wheat. Both times it did the same thing: top half colonizes then it stalls out.  I suspect my culture isnt quite clean so i cabined it and tried again and got the same result. 

Any help appreciated.


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I have a straw log hanging in my pole barn and when I checked it today I noticed a few fungus gnats hanging out around the drainage holes on the bottom of the bag. Is there a way for me to fight this or am I boned?


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: noomer]
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is this trichoderma on my reishi cake?



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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: brominegeek93] * 1
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Trich or aspergillus. The fruits are still harvestable Imo

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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: noomer] * 2
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BeefExtreme said:
Struggling with turkey tail.  Ive tried twice growing spawn on wheat. Both times it did the same thing: top half colonizes then it stalls out.  I suspect my culture isnt quite clean so i cabined it and tried again and got the same result. 

Any help appreciated.


Only fruited turkey tail once and this didn't happen, so not sure what's going on. Did it not recover after shaking? I wonder if it's not getting enough GE. Bigger filter hole, or unmodified plastic lid left a bit loose? (The latter is probably how I did mine in the first place.)

noomer said:
I have a straw log hanging in my pole barn and when I checked it today I noticed a few fungus gnats hanging out around the drainage holes on the bottom of the bag. Is there a way for me to fight this or am I boned?


Doubt you'll have much luck getting rid of them in a space that's not fairly well sealed from outdoors. (Even inside, it takes weeks...) But they shouldn't hurt the fruits, as long as the substrate is healthy enough that mold spores they happen to carry in can't germinate and spread on it.

Maybe it'd be possible to treat the soak water for future logs with BTS. But since that's live bacteria (harmless to mushroom mycelium), it may not survive heat or lime pasteurization. So you'd have to add it after it's cooled or drained of the alkaline water and let it drain some more. Not sure whether anyone does this with straw.


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
BeefExtreme said:
Struggling with turkey tail.  Ive tried twice growing spawn on wheat. Both times it did the same thing: top half colonizes then it stalls out.  I suspect my culture isnt quite clean so i cabined it and tried again and got the same result. 

Any help appreciated.


Only fruited turkey tail once and this didn't happen, so not sure what's going on. Did it not recover after shaking? I wonder if it's not getting enough GE. Bigger filter hole, or unmodified plastic lid left a bit loose? (The latter is probably how I did mine in the first place.)

noomer said:
I have a straw log hanging in my pole barn and when I checked it today I noticed a few fungus gnats hanging out around the drainage holes on the bottom of the bag. Is there a way for me to fight this or am I boned?


Doubt you'll have much luck getting rid of them in a space that's not fairly well sealed from outdoors. (Even inside, it takes weeks...) But they shouldn't hurt the fruits, as long as the substrate is healthy enough that mold spores they happen to carry in can't germinate and spread on it.

Maybe it'd be possible to treat the soak water for future logs with BTS. But since that's live bacteria (harmless to mushroom mycelium), it may not survive heat or lime pasteurization. So you'd have to add it after it's cooled or drained of the alkaline water and let it drain some more. Not sure whether anyone does this with straw.


Thanks i was kinda thinkin that.  I'll try a much bigger filter.


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: brominegeek93]
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Is this brown/black stuff also mold?


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Re: Ask quick questions [Re: deadmandave]
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with as slow as these things are growing, maybe a monotub has too much surface area, increasing likelihood of contamination. Is a big glass or jar perhaps better suited for reishi?


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