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tree frog
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers

[Re: BagShaker]
#29522829 - 03/21/26 03:06 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

BagShaker said:

thank you! would you wait for them to develop or it's better to clone while young? would you wait to harvest the bigger ones?

I don't know when to harvest that strain of cubes.

And cloning when young is good. As long as they're big enough to get a clean tissue sample, which those appear to be.

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#29522836 - 03/21/26 03:26 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

BagShaker said:

are you all doing coir/verm or it makes sense to put some manure in the bulk substrate? i have some pasteurized horse manure, would you put 30% in volume or more? like 30 manure/ 40 coir / 30 verm? and then a little pseudocasing just coir verm. (no bucket tek of course, i'd do 2 myco bags of substrate in my PC, 1.5 hours after the center is at 140F, max 158F)

Also, how much time do you take out of the fridge LC /jars before inoculation? thanks

For cubes I would just use coir, but verm is fine if you want. Manure usually don't increase :yields:

:yields:

but it will increase contamination risk.

Top layer/pseudo casing is good for cubes.

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[Re: BagShaker]

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#29522837 - 03/21/26 03:28 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

BagShaker said:

are you all doing coir/verm or it makes sense to put some manure in the bulk substrate? i have some pasteurized horse manure, would you put 30% in volume or more? like 30 manure/ 40 coir / 30 verm? and then a little pseudocasing just coir verm. (no bucket tek of course, i'd do 2 myco bags of substrate in my PC, 1.5 hours after the center is at 140F, max 158F)

Also, how much time do you take out of the fridge LC /jars before inoculation? thanks

All you need for cubes is coir, I only use verm to adjust moisture for field capacity after rehydrating my coir because I’m too lazy to weigh it out.

Manure will only complicate things, you can leave it out completely.

My pseudocasing is the same as my substrate.. bucket tek coir with added verm as needed to adjust for field capacity.

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#29522907 - 03/21/26 04:56 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

Yeah poo is pretty much dead as part of the arsenal huh. Not unlike, idk, growing in aquariums or messing around with perlite or hydrating for multiple days.

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#29522913 - 03/21/26 05:05 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

I don't know that all of those things are dead, they're just not standard operating procedure. Beause there's easier ways to get great results. Especially with cubes. So most of us encourage folks to keep it simple.

I still dream of a mushroom terrarium, but it would be a novelty.

And on the rare occasion I grow psilocybes, I do them like pans. With sterilized nitrogen and a casing. Because I'd rather stick to my workflow than deviate. Especially since I usually have those things prepped.

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#29522931 - 03/21/26 05:27 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

Nothing wrong with anything that works to grow mushrooms.

What is common, cheap, or easy for one person might be completely unavailable for another. Personally I have an abundance of free ruminant manure. I do not have money to burn, nor do I have quality organic nutrients I would divert from growing fine cannabis and food.

So what's on the menu for mushrooms is... manure.

Materials are never dated if they work to grow mushrooms. There is always a better, more efficient, cleaner, or easier method and that will remain a constant. For the perfectionists out there who have the time to obsess, I salute you. I look forward to seeing your compartmentalized system of hydro leaching micro arrays of mycelium on a timer, and showing up to a clean evaporated product.

I'll still be grinning about poo and laughing my ass off with the universal messenger system from time to time.

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[Re: divineverdance]
#29522957 - 03/21/26 06:15 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

divineverdance said:

What's the longest time you've seen a cube take to go from pin to mature?

Couple months.

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#29522986 - 03/21/26 07:12 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

brominegeek93 said:

Ok. Not needed, but nice to have.
I've noticed my millet grain jars sticking together so that I couldn't properly shake it. I'll see if gypsum fixes that issue or if I just used too much water or whatever.

I’ve been messing with white millet for the last 10 tubs. Personally I love it!

The biggest trick I’ve seen with millet is to absolutely make sure that the second it depressurizes is that you get them out (with a heavy heat handling mitts) and get too shaking and breaking it all up!

Then the next day after it’s cooled down give it another good BnS.

I’m not sure if you’re doing no prep millet, but the ratios I have been using successfully are

250 mg white millet
125 mg water
1:4 teaspoons of gypsum added to the top (without shaking/stiring)

If you’re doing traditional soak methods, maybe those ratios will help. Can’t say I’ve tried it without gypsum yet as I have been dialing in the water/grain ratio first and foremost.

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#29522992 - 03/21/26 07:18 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

Cakewonder said:

If you are new to this stick with PF TEK, but listen to Tree Frog.

first of all, thank you all guys, i really appreciate you taking your time to educate.

that's my second attempt at monotubs, i went straight to it, jars than bags of rye. in my first run i had around 100g dry per monotub (in around 4 months) of 99.9% sidepins (pretty big tho :grin:

:grin:

) because i let the surface dry

now i just started to harvest kinda decent tubs, i well know i have A LOT to learn and practice to make.
some of my bought lcs and bought plates had issues, i'm really looking forward to do my own plates, clones and the SSLC seems really appealing to me.

all started with my doctor suggesting me to try some for neuroplasticity, in a country where it's really illegal, and now it's almost all i do everyday (edit: i don't mean eating them :grin:

:grin:

). hopefully i'll post soon some nice pics, thank you all again

Edited by BagShaker (03/21/26 07:19 PM)

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#29523009 - 03/21/26 07:52 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

Splittinghairs said:

brominegeek93 said:

Ok. Not needed, but nice to have.
I've noticed my millet grain jars sticking together so that I couldn't properly shake it. I'll see if gypsum fixes that issue or if I just used too much water or whatever.

I’ve been messing with white millet for the last 10 tubs. Personally I love it!

The biggest trick I’ve seen with millet is to absolutely make sure that the second it depressurizes is that you get them out (with a heavy heat handling mitts) and get too shaking and breaking it all up!

Then the next day after it’s cooled down give it another good BnS.

I’m not sure if you’re doing no prep millet, but the ratios I have been using successfully are

250 mg white millet
125 mg water
1:4 teaspoons of gypsum added to the top (without shaking/stiring)

If you’re doing traditional soak methods, maybe those ratios will help. Can’t say I’ve tried it without gypsum yet as I have been dialing in the water/grain ratio first and foremost.

Just tried the no prep millet the same way. It still clumped up butnit seems to be doing okay so far. The ones I tried where I rinsed them first came out nicer i think butbincouldbe shaken some more or added some gypsum or other surfactant type thing to the jars.

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unhinge9315
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[Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#29523032 - 03/21/26 08:24 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

My first attempt at agar. I've got 4 plates that I've inoculated from LC syringes. 2xGT and 2xB+. Inoc on 18th March so photos are @ day 4.

I'd like some advice about if/when it would be best to transfer a wedge from each to new plates?

(Still trying to figure out agar camera focus tek sorry)

GT:

B+

Edited by unhinge9315 (03/21/26 08:32 PM)

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Splittinghairs

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#29523038 - 03/21/26 08:31 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

I do still tend to get about a golf ball cluster in every other one.

But since I settled on the ratio I mentioned, I’ve done 41 jars and have only lost one to some really random black spots that I chucked pretty fast once I saw the irregularities. I sent one of that agar plates mates to G2G and the other two to a shoebox grow and the G2G is nearly done 7 days later with no issues, so I’m confident that loss was random as hell.

I have had two tubs complete so far.

Only thing I didn’t mention I tried I saw someone mention here with no prep, was flipping it upside down after the second day shake to help redistribute moisture.

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#29523042 - 03/21/26 08:34 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

unhinge9315 said:

My first attempt at agar. I've got 4 plates that I've inoculated from LC syringes. 2xGT and 2xB+. Inoc on 18th March so photos are @ day 4.

I'd like some advice about if/when it would be best to transfer a wedge from each to new plates?

(Still trying to figure out agar camera focus tek sorry)

GT:

B+

I like to grab as soon as I can get three pieces to transfer from an area.

So the second B+ photo I would grab 3 6 and 11 now. Put on one plate and let them work themselves out.

Me personally though………..

Edit. Spelling bs

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[Re: BagShaker]
#29523056 - 03/21/26 08:48 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

BagShaker said:

thank you! would you wait for them to develop or it's better to clone while young? would you wait to harvest the bigger ones?

You can clone at any time. Age doesn't change the genetics you want. They remain dikaryon.

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#29523165 - 03/21/26 10:45 PM (7 months, 17 days ago)

AstroSporeFiend said:

Hey, Cron! What’s up, dude?

AZ, thanks for trying to undo the village idiot’s stupid fucking advice. That kind of shit is fucking infuriating.

Hey fam I'm doing ok ! Hope everyone is doing great I'm getting ready for outdoor season ,shit kinda hit the fan on me here so just been idle lol

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#29523311 - 03/22/26 02:31 AM (7 months, 16 days ago)

Wb Cron. Good to see ya.

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#29523362 - 03/22/26 05:05 AM (7 months, 16 days ago)

I have let them soak for a few hours before.
And the one I'm using right now has been sitting in the fridge for several months. So not that surprising they're sticking together.
No clue what kind of millet I got. I just got a huge bag of sold as bird seeds from ebay.
I'll try this no prep method next time. Thanks

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#29523398 - 03/22/26 07:10 AM (7 months, 16 days ago)

Is it normal that the Reishi have a distinctly sweet smell?
I'd describe it as "popcorn like".

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#29523484 - 03/22/26 10:39 AM (7 months, 16 days ago)

brominegeek93 said:

I have let them soak for a few hours before.
And the one I'm using right now has been sitting in the fridge for several months. So not that surprising they're sticking together.
No clue what kind of millet I got. I just got a huge bag of sold as bird seeds from ebay.
I'll try this no prep method next time. Thanks

Gotta rinse that shit till water runs clear....

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#29523486 - 03/22/26 10:45 AM (7 months, 16 days ago)

brominegeek93 said:

Is it normal that the Reishi have a distinctly sweet smell?
I'd describe it as "popcorn like".

Yes...
Due to the VOC's
Others aromas, nutty, sweet almond, earthy/ woody & even a bit fruity

....if only they tasted like they smell

Edited by LewDoja (03/22/26 10:46 AM)

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