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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maimunji]
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Messed up mono:

1:1 Spawn to substrate (rye grain x cvg)

Mixed up and tamped down the WHOLE thing (should've just done the sides)

Psudo casing at the same time tamped down FIRMLY

Wrapped in foil loosely and left to colonize.

Been colonizing now for 17 days. ~90% colonized

Still got some patches that are not covered with mycelium.. and they're not looking like they are going anywhere..

Question (finally):

What is my best course of action?

A. Leave alone and see if it will colonize

B. Open it up and check if the casing patches are dry / mist them

C. Put it into fruiting

Bad pics through the tub:



Thank you! 😁

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maimunji]
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maimunji said:
ambigu said:
maimunji said:
This is test jar siting 2 weeks after pc to see if there is issues with my pc. I want to ask rye looks dry and not enought hidrated right? They are not prepared right i think.
I just simmer rye until few start to open then i let them dry for 5-6 hours load jars  and pc.



This is how jars looks




Not good ehh. I got almous everything contaminated i will switch to brf cakes to spawn. Just cant be that bad my techick isnt perpect but every fucking jar goes to trash  just isnt right to me.


I try to beat contaminations with quantity but without sucess...


I don’t see anything wrong with those jars (colonised ones and the uncolonised test jar). I have the feeling though that those lids don’t really fit on the jars, or is that just my impression? If so, maybe that could have caused the contamination?


The caps have a rubber seal,Think they are ok.. it's just that the neck is deep maybe thats what you see?
Small agar jars is same with same lids. I have 1 mount old agar test jars without contamination.
I think i will see mould in grain test jars if they are not ok. Filter is just micropore tape can be issue also. Dont know really...




The problem is in your agar I believe. Grain test jars won't show you what you are looking for. Agar just isn't food to fatten up mycelium, it's best purpose is to diagnose for non-axenic conditions on a 2-D surface.



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Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
Contaminated Condiment Cup Cleanup v1.0

Green Cap Pheno Isolation
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LousyHero] * 3
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LousyHero said:
Messed up mono:

1:1 Spawn to substrate (rye grain x cvg)

Mixed up and tamped down the WHOLE thing (should've just done the sides)

Psudo casing at the same time tamped down FIRMLY

Wrapped in foil loosely and left to colonize.

Been colonizing now for 17 days. ~90% colonized

Still got some patches that are not covered with mycelium.. and they're not looking like they are going anywhere..

Question (finally):

What is my best course of action?

A. Leave alone and see if it will colonize

B. Open it up and check if the casing patches are dry / mist them

C. Put it into fruiting

Bad pics through the tub:



Thank you! 😁


First off...  Crack that tub! You need not be afraid of contams at this stage.

I tamp the entire sub before a pseudo-casing. It is essential for good canopies. The sub should be fairly even density so mycelium doesn't grow faster in areas.

Any reason your ratio is 1:1? Higher sub to spawn ratios give best results. 1:3 is common for cubes.

We don't differentiant between fruiting and colonizing conditions. We go to fruiting conditions at spawn.

Other than that LITFA. Can't rush a mushroom.


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Agar Plates and Removing Hidden Contaminants - A Visual Notebook
Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
Contaminated Condiment Cup Cleanup v1.0

Green Cap Pheno Isolation
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maimunji]
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maimunji said:
ModularMind said:
What brand is your coir, and how do you prep?


Brand is Dragon i just boil some water poor over it  then put lid on cooker and let it sit until its cool.


So when you say cooker, are you doing this in the same cooker you process grain in?

Having a dedicated coir bucket is a very good idea.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
maimunji said:
ModularMind said:
What brand is your coir, and how do you prep?


Brand is Dragon i just boil some water poor over it  then put lid on cooker and let it sit until its cool.


So when you say cooker, are you doing this in the same cooker you process grain in?

Having a dedicated coir bucket is a very good idea.


I used same cooker for grain and coir of course i wash it every time.
I remember you said to me in another thread to separate buckets so i take your advice and using  different cookers now for both sadly without improviment.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I'm curious lol I know what Team Clingwrap is but what is Team IHOP?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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DV8DUG said:
maimunji said:
ambigu said:
maimunji said:
This is test jar siting 2 weeks after pc to see if there is issues with my pc. I want to ask rye looks dry and not enought hidrated right? They are not prepared right i think.
I just simmer rye until few start to open then i let them dry for 5-6 hours load jars  and pc.



This is how jars looks




Not good ehh. I got almous everything contaminated i will switch to brf cakes to spawn. Just cant be that bad my techick isnt perpect but every fucking jar goes to trash  just isnt right to me.


I try to beat contaminations with quantity but without sucess...


I don’t see anything wrong with those jars (colonised ones and the uncolonised test jar). I have the feeling though that those lids don’t really fit on the jars, or is that just my impression? If so, maybe that could have caused the contamination?


The caps have a rubber seal,Think they are ok.. it's just that the neck is deep maybe thats what you see?
Small agar jars is same with same lids. I have 1 mount old agar test jars without contamination.
I think i will see mould in grain test jars if they are not ok. Filter is just micropore tape can be issue also. Dont know really...




The problem is in your agar I believe. Grain test jars won't show you what you are looking for. Agar just isn't food to fatten up mycelium, it's best purpose is to diagnose for non-axenic conditions on a 2-D surface.
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If there is issues with lids, filters, grain preparing, pc not running proper not enought psi to sterilize it must show me something thats why i left control jar and hope thats the problem.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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Thank you, I did!

Here's how it looks inside:


Misted it a few times to get the sub a bit darker, now we wait!

The reason I used 1:1 is I drilled the holes too low and wanted to use all the spawn :smile:

Got less spawn just about to finish but I'll be trying shoebox ways with that πŸ’

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RhyzoPhreak] * 2
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RhyzoPhreak said:
I'm curious lol I know what Team Clingwrap is but what is Team IHOP?


It's when you get all set up to pour a stack of plates and have a brain glitch that results in pouring agar on top of the stack like a pile of pancakes and syrup.  It's not as exclusive of a club as you think :lol:


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New to cultivation or the shroomery?  Observe the hitchhiker's guide

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery



Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maimunji] * 2
    #29460878 -

maimunji said:
If there is issues with lids, filters, grain preparing, pc not running proper not enought psi to sterilize it must show me something thats why i left control jar and hope thats the problem.


Lemme see if I got this right. You have agar test jars 1 month old and no contams. You have a grain control jar and nothing growing. So obviously it's what you're sticking in there that's the problem. Try to bring your culture to be the only organism in the dish FIRST. Then take the agar to your grain.

Let's see some plates of what you're sending to grain.


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Agar Plates and Removing Hidden Contaminants - A Visual Notebook
Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
Contaminated Condiment Cup Cleanup v1.0

Green Cap Pheno Isolation
πŸ…ƒπŸ„΄πŸ„°πŸ„Ό ​ πŸ„²πŸ„ΎπŸ„½πŸ„³πŸ„ΈπŸ„ΌπŸ„΄πŸ„½πŸ…ƒ ​ πŸ„²πŸ…„πŸ„Ώ

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Haha, I had that happen yesterday. But it wasn’t the top plate, it was a plate in the middle of the stack where when I lifted the stack, the bottom portion of the dish was stuck inside the top and I didn’t notice. I poured anyways and it cascaded agar over the bottom five plates I had already poured. I just laughed :smile:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Thankful]
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I harvested some of the larger better fruits from these tubs. But I’m worried about the green and overly fuzzy areas? And are the small capped fruits aborts? 

What am I looking at? What should I do now?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle] * 2
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Thank you for the responses everyone! Now that I know what I am looking for I was able to find a ton of useful information by searching "bucket dehydrator" in the search bar. Saved me from spending $200 on the biggest Amazon dehydrator I could find that probably wouldn't do half of the capacity.

I'm sure I'll be an honorary member of Team IHOP before I know it, agar plates are my next big adventure!

Thanks again!


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The Hitch Hiker's Guide

Bod's TEKs

Pastywhyte's Easy Writeups

Baba's TEKs (Exotics and more)

callmehippie's Extensive List of Everything

Anything and Everything Else You Will Ever Need

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RhyzoPhreak] * 1
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Thankful said:
Haha, I had that happen yesterday. But it wasn’t the top plate, it was a plate in the middle of the stack where when I lifted the stack, the bottom portion of the dish was stuck inside the top and I didn’t notice. I poured anyways and it cascaded agar over the bottom five plates I had already poured. I just laughed :smile:


Only thing you can do :lol:

RhyzoPhreak said:
Thank you for the responses everyone! Now that I know what I am looking for I was able to find a ton of useful information by searching "bucket dehydrator" in the search bar. Saved me from spending $200 on the biggest Amazon dehydrator I could find that probably wouldn't do half of the capacity.

I'm sure I'll be an honorary member of Team IHOP before I know it, agar plates are my next big adventure!

Thanks again!


There's nothing honorary about it.  When you're in, you're in :awesomenod:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

Edited by Mr Piggy (01/21/26 09:45 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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RhyzoPhreak said:
I'm curious lol I know what Team Clingwrap is but what is Team IHOP?


I've wondered the same on occasion

Mr Piggy said:
It's when you get all set up to pour a stack of plates and have a brain glitch that results in pouring agar on top of the stack like a pile of pancakes and syrup.  It's not as exclusive of a club as you think :lol:


Oh dear, I recently joined the team.  I'm going to go ahead and assume the logo isn't required.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 3
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Mr Piggy said:
RhyzoPhreak said:
I'm curious lol I know what Team Clingwrap is but what is Team IHOP?


It's when you get all set up to pour a stack of plates and have a brain glitch that results in pouring agar on top of the stack like a pile of pancakes and syrup.  It's not as exclusive of a club as you think :lol:


Somebody needs to make a rage quit SAB agar pour video.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind]
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I recall seeing a mushroom family tree of sorts, that showed the lineage of the various cubes and other varieties. My search skills are failing, any ideas?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind] * 1
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ModularMind said:
Mr Piggy said:
RhyzoPhreak said:
I'm curious lol I know what Team Clingwrap is but what is Team IHOP?


It's when you get all set up to pour a stack of plates and have a brain glitch that results in pouring agar on top of the stack like a pile of pancakes and syrup.  It's not as exclusive of a club as you think :lol:


Somebody needs to make a rage quit SAB agar pour video.


:laugh2:


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Agar Plates and Removing Hidden Contaminants - A Visual Notebook
Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
Contaminated Condiment Cup Cleanup v1.0

Green Cap Pheno Isolation
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: digitalis3] * 1
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digitalis3 said:
This is a grain bag from NorthSpore, so I believe the moisture content is correct. I believe the condensation you see is normal as colonization proceeds. It always shows up when colonization picks up. The bags are pressure sterilized so the plastic bag takes on the knobby shapes of the grains, which can be mistaken for water droplets in photos.

I do not believe 100% colonization of of the grain bag is necessary but I would like more input here.


If you read the HHG there's a lovely analogy of how the bulk spawn is a battlefield and how uncolonized grains are ammunition for the enemy.

Sure, you can s2b before you're at 100 percent... You can also eat cereal with a fork, it's just not the best idea...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind]
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ModularMind said:
Somebody needs to make a rage quit SAB agar pour video.


My mind first misread this as a "rage squit" pour in your SAB.  That would be entertaining also.


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