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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr]
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It doesn't seem like the solution is to use another substrate recipe. Are you certain that you have clean spawn? Post some pictures


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: strawboy] * 2
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Not 100% sure of course but I think it was clean.


Some looked like this a couple of days before casing


Waited until these bags were fully colonized


Looked like this about a week after casing


That's from two weeks ago, can take new pictures later.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr] * 1
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It's hard to tell but it's possible that you're casing is too thick. That in combination with a tub that doesn't have active air exchange. You might just be suffocating them.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr]
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I didn't want to use manure in my tiny rental apartment kitchen anyway so I don't mind trying, but yeah might not help me.

Can you remove overlay? I doubt it would work.. I'm keeping them for a while longer but might as well try removing the overlay to see what happens before tossing them.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr]
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Didn't even know I could suffocate them with the casing :grin: Only done cubes before and never cased

But it's not that thick, maybe 1.5 cm at most. But if it was suffocated, would it still colonize and overlay the casing?

Some of it is bruising blue now too

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr] * 1
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I know it doesn't seem that thick but that's pretty fuckin thick for pans. You're pushing 3/4 of an inch. Try 3mm. The first pic of the big tray looks like you buried it. Might as well put up a grave stone


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: strawboy]
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Haha :grin:

Good to know

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr] * 1
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I like to use a very thin top layer and then a very thin casing over that.  That gives the colony plenty of nitrogen close to the surface, but not much carbon.

Either way, if the surface is too wet or to dry, they won't knot.

A colonized casing will still fruit as long as it doesn't dry out and turn into a mat.

Rather than misting to keep the casing optimal, I've been letting things pin with very high humidity and minimal fresh air in a warm environment (my heated fruiting chambers) using a flipped lid.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Been out of the pan game for a minute. Isn't the myc usually thinner?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rockyfungus]
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You mean in my pics? I thought so too. Thought it was thick compared to pics I've seen. It's the same on agar. Fluffy

Is that bad?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr] * 5
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ansr said:
You mean in my pics? I thought so too. Thought it was thick compared to pics I've seen. It's the same on agar. Fluffy

Is that bad?


It depends on the variety and conditions.

Both trays is Jambo(known to eat casing), the one covered in fluffy mycelium was the tray closest to the fan in the dreamer(dryer conditions).



They did fine in the end though.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Ok, now I'm concerned about the top sub layer being to thick. Here is my ttbvi tester from 9/25 that had a minimal top layer. The spawn I did the other day was lasagna style with a much thicker top layer.

I pulled the lid off for this pic, its the first time under an ffu.

Is it ready for casing? I thought I should wait until 10/5 for a 10 day consolidation period.




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Interesting. Doesn't seem to make much difference in your case. What did they look like before casing?

None of mine have a single pin.

Gonna make more spawn and try again

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr]
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I haven't put a casing layer on it yet. That's just the top of the sub partially colonized.

I have my ph* balanced casing (peat/verm) ready and waiting.

In my mind, I thought to let the sub consolidate before casing, but I can definitely be bass backwards.

* Edit PH not phone lol, stupid autocorrect.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Centerfinger] * 1
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You could go now and case if you want but maybe just let it finish, it doesn't even have to go until the 5th, just until it's done colonizing.

If you case now, it's likely gonna finish up the uncolonized parts first. :cheers:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Wedgie] * 1
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I would wait a bit.  The more even the top layer is colonized, the more evenly it will utilize the casing.

Also you mentioned a ffu, if your substrate is sterilized definitely wait for full colonization.  If it's pasteurized, you don't need to open it in front of a ffu.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Centerfinger]
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Centerfinger said:
I haven't put a casing layer on it yet. That's just the top of the sub partially colonized.

I have my ph* balanced casing (peat/verm) ready and waiting.

In my mind, I thought to let the sub consolidate before casing, but I can definitely be bass backwards.

* Edit PH not phone lol, stupid autocorrect.


My reply was to Kloakk :grin:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Thanks wedgie and Ms tree frog. The sub is pasteurized, I was being cautious and didn't want to risk anything opening it up when I'm getting close on my first attempt.

I will take your suggestions, which was my initial plan and wait until full consolidation on top. I don't care for my to-go container since I can't see what's happening on the bottom, but it is just a test.

Mush love.

Sorry ansr, I thought you were responding to me.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr]
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I think it's been too long for mine so I removed the overlay from them to see what happens. Some of it was like soft marshmallows and some of it was harder. Removed and misted.

I think it might be too dense though.. Not sure what to do about that since it was really dense the whole way from agar? Not at all thin and wispy

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr] * 1
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Hey folks, been working on my first pans grow with monotubs for a minute and I've got a few Qs.
I'm seeing a lot of bruising (or is it aborting?) in one of my tubs. Would this be from misting, conditions or something else? And once they get quite blue is it worth drying and eating them? I've got about 100g of mostly very blue fruits I just harvested:


They came from this tub (photo from monday):


And I've got this other tub that I've been giving less FAE and which was not showing the bruising issue until today or yesterday, and which is also growing some pretty anemic looking fruits:


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