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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: AVShroomer]
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Heh, this is gonna be the LSD Crystal to Blotter thread sequel...definitely piques my interest in DMT more than ever before.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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that thread still keeps popping up everyonce and a while... that and the "thumbprint" thread... somehow chinacat always makes these kinds of monsters of threads!


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: phalloidin]
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MrTryptastic said:
There was guy in DMT: Spirit Molecule who was fifty and had blast on this stuff.  As long as your in good health and have an open mind, I see no reason to abstain.  I think certain people are more predisposed for these sorts of things.  Simple thrill seekers would probably not enjoy DMT.  You kind of have to humble yourself to it. 



It seemed like the people that did well were willing to let themselves go with the DMT, instead of fighting it. And many were experienced meditators which really seemed to help them out.  Rick Strassman proposes that DMT somehow opens an unknown sense organ (our pineal or pituitary gland perhaps?) so that we can see into different dimensions that are of course always there, but normally invisible and unknown to us. 

The high dose injected DMT (.4 mg/kg) seems to be the only way to be sure to reach this other place and the entities. It is SO interesting to me!  I would really like to be involved in further studies, if there ever are any (hopefully!).

Here is a quote from Rick Strassman from before the book was published:

"There were interesting experiences of all kinds, including physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual experiences. There were entities of varied shapes, sizes, intelligence, and messages. There were near-death experiences of dismemberment and re-integration. There was being devoured by spiders, dancing with DNA, and having sex with alligators. There were angels, machines, and implantations. There were highly personal recollections and healings, simply colorful visions, visions of the future. There were laughing Buddhas, great winged creatures, computer circuits, and cactus beings. There was enlightenment, there was paranoia, there was love, there was despair. There were women, there were men. There were Amazonian natives and porcelain dolls. There was Gumby. There was not very much, there was way too much. There was nothing to remember, there was too much to forget."  :heart:


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Phishgrrl]
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Phishgrrl you rule once more of course, thank you for posting that paragraph...best thing I've read in ages!


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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:smile: Thanks....if you think that is good, you have got to read the book!  :heart:


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Phishgrrl]
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Phishgrrl said:
:smile: Thanks....if you think that is good, you have got to read the book!  :heart:


i second that!


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Vvellum]
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bi0 said:
Give me something that doesnt have the standard 4/4 drumkick, obvious samples and loops, ever-present build up and break...too much cheese.



what you need is shpongle. oh, wait.

no really posford is always playing around with funny time signatures and funky beats. I know the shit you are describing, but shpongle ain't it.


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no flamz in da ODD, if you got nothing to contribute then keep yo lips zipped
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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Noviseer]
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eh, I've given shpongle plenty of chances and I still think there is more creative stuff out there.

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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: phalloidin]
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MrTryptastic said:
Anyone else have a contact experience.


Contact experiances are very commen with this drug. This is what makes it special. This also what separates it from other psychedelics. I have friends that will eat 10,000mcg. of LSD, but won't go near DMT agian. There just happy with ego death. As Robert Hunter say's "DMT is for those with heavy guage wiring".
It's utter wierdness is to much for many experianced psychedelic user's.
This doesn't imply that those of us that do like DMT are more highly evolved. It just means that we get off on utter wierdness.

For a report on my most intense experiance here's a link.


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: chinacat72]
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Invisible Link?!


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...ev=#Post2381358
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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: chinacat72]
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Chinacat....that was a really...I mean I am just blown away by what I just read. It's so crazy sitting in a cubicle reading about that, and something about the way you convey it really sends chills down my spine. I think I need to try DMT some time.

Seriously though thanks for that read. Jeez. That was crazy. Didn't you say something about an Ibogaine trip report when you came back? Is that in the works?

By the way, my favorite part:

"I had to grin at the thought of my experiance and how many billions of dollars they spend. Walking on Mars wouldn't be anything compared to DMT. "


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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I'm almost done with the Ibogaine report. Since it involved 4 old friends alone in the desert on 1.25 grams each it is a quite long story. :sun:

I hope to have it done this week and posted in trip tips.


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: chinacat72]
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Sweet...can't wait to read it.  I'm not too familiar with Ibogaine, though I know I have heard of it but never read very much about it.  I'll have to go look some stuff up.

Every time I read about another DMT experience I just become more and more facintated.  I NEED to read Strassman's book...and do some DMT!  :crazy2:

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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: chinacat72]
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so Rick Strassman was saying .4-.6 mgs of pure dmt was a high dose and you did 75 mg???? HOLY SHIT are you sure this is the same dmt? I must have my numbers wrong.... :eek:


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: chinacat72]
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Ibogaine, heard alot about it, read alot an erowid... haven't yet tried it, heard it was pretty intense


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Phishgrrl]
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maybe he meant micrograms?

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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Digs]
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I don't know- wouldn't 75 micrograms convert to .00075 milligrams? Or am I just totally confused?


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Phishgrrl]
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dmt? the does is in mg, 50-60 75 sound sright LoL.


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Re: DMT,Shpongle and the Stars [Re: Phishgrrl]
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the tragedy comes when people mistake 5-meo with nn and smoke 5-meo wioth the dosage range on nn



whew I can't even imagine how intense that would be.


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