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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: root3r] * 1
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root3r said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
Don't over analyze.
You asked a question and you found out there was a hole in your sterile technique.

That's great. Take it as progress that you've made. Don't take it as you trying to force conflict when there isn't any. Somebody helped you after you asked a question.

Everything after that is up to your interpretation.



I know exactly what went wrong with my procedure and I clearly see the forum's 'reaction' to my posts. 

It is evident that several above misunderstand what went wrong with my procedure.  And I will not discuss it any further.  There is simply much anger these days everywhere you look.  I do not intend to participate. 

I will 'have fun with my mold', thank you.



Good, you should have fun with it.

Just to clarify, you 100% started this. Not only do you participate, you instigate. You should have a slice of moldy humble pie.


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 3
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I must confess that I bought a kit for my first growth. Not only that, I also used an egg incubator to "hatch" the mushrooms.

Surprisingly I got one decent flush. And that was the only flush I got from the kit. At least I managed to make some prints.

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Thisisfine] * 8
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As a South African I apologize for root3r's behavior.

:lol:

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Thats the thing with practice. You dont learn to ride a unicycle or a snowboard without falling a few times.

Youre telling me you wrap and unwrap every plate before you even put anything on it?

I dont even want to think about how long that would take me.

I have 2 large rolls of parafilm that are useless brcause they are dry and crumbly. Clingwrap is a pita to cut, and
Kloakk said:
And I have no problem believing you do this and do it without failure, but you really know your shit and have been doing it for years :hatsoff:




Im far from perfect. I had a grain spawn failure rate last year of like 70+%
Pouring is where my sattelites always came from in my sab



You're mostly right, most of my agar plates gets wrapped unused, and then unwrapped before transfer or spore inoculation. The only time I don't is if by chance I have unwrapped plates sitting in my SAB at the same time I'm doing plate work :muppet:

I don't think it's time consuming, but I run a pretty small operation :lol: And I'm sure the zipbag technique works just fine when you've done it a couple of times and it probably saves some time, just not sure I would recommend a noob like me to try it out from the get go :uhoh:

Also, I've found a way to do things and it seems to be working well, that have to some degree, stalled my development and curiosity, because I am concerned that I'll change things that don't need to be change and mess up, but I'm sure that's my loss.

And you know me man, I love the work you do, even with your 70% grain spawn failure :hug:

DERRAYLD said:
As a South African I apologize for root3r's behavior.

:lol:



:rofl:


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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The main reason i stopped wrapping before inoculation is i felt like i was moving the plate more wrapping before use than just carefully opening a bag and putting it around a plate with the protection of the bag


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Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Kloakk] * 3
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I confess I like my individually wrapped plates.

I think I have about 80 plates I am actively work with at the moment, 3 x varieties of cubensis, 4 x exotic species and 4 x woodlover species.

I have kept stacks of blank plates in ziplocs and it's perfectly fine but when working with this many species I find it easier to prepare my work in stacks outside of the SAB and work through each stack one at a time.

I hate working in a cluttered SAB, I take regular breaks and I don't have fuck all else going on.

It's definitely a time consuming process but I enjoy it.

I also might be moving house and I'm going slightly insane with all these jars and cakes ready to spawn, I think I counted 130 plus but it would be a pain in the arse moving everything mid fruiting.

tryptkaloids I just want to say you do amazing work around here!

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: tryptkaloids]
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I'm not trying to jump on, but losing plates is a part of the learning process, perfect or not.

I can't count how many nice looking plates I've accidentally manhandled and ended up with bacteria or mold on. It's a bit disappointing, but it's just something that happens. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

I try not to get too attached to cultures because shit happens. I know if I truly fuck up a culture, someone here probably has spores to share and it's really only a delay of a few weeks to get more.

In the mean time, I get to try some rescue techniques like Josex Poke, BRF Pucks, etc...

My weird confession:

My instances of bacteria on plates seems to go up when I wipe my gloves and the plates with ISO. Dry gloves + Washing my hands to the elbow with soap and water seems to give me the best success rate.


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I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Dkeppel

:whathesaid:





tryptkaloids said:
The main reason i stopped wrapping before inoculation is i felt like i was moving the plate more wrapping before use than just carefully opening a bag and putting it around a plate with the protection of the bag



I totally get and respect that and your work trypt, as I said, I am probably a little stuck in my ways of doing things because it works for me, and don't want to fall on my ass by changing it :lol:


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Kloakk] * 3
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Throwing my hat in the ring...

I have never wrapped a plate. I narrowed my preference to glass no-pours. Glass is slippery coming out of the PC. I tried once and quickly abandoned the calf tying in favor of individual ziplock sandwich baggies. One per plate. Once bagged and removed from the SAB, that now dirty bag never goes back into the SAB. I open the baggie just outside of the armhole and the sterile petri goes inside the SAB. No wiping with alcohol ever. After xfers, the plate returns to the same baggie, just outside the armhole.


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It takes guts to be
gentle and kind

Another way to live

Your ego is your nemesis.
Seek the truth tirelessly,
Even at the cost of your own sanity.
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: LadysKnight] * 1
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Sounds good, with the glass having more weight and never bringing the bag inside the SAB it makes more sense, to my nooby behind :muppet: What do you do with the bag(s) when the agar is discarded?


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Kloakk said:
Sounds good, with the glass having more weight and never bringing the bag inside the SAB it makes more sense, to my nooby behind :muppet: What do you do with the bag(s) when the agar is discarded?



Same place as used wrap, it goes in the trash. I have considered washing them, and I used to do that as a hippie, but I already don't wrap and rewrap or use gloves or alcohol or plastic plates, or electricity so I call it a wash.


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It takes guts to be
gentle and kind

Another way to live

Your ego is your nemesis.
Seek the truth tirelessly,
Even at the cost of your own sanity.
-fiddle_head

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: LadysKnight]
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LadysKnight said:
Same place as used wrap, it goes in the trash. I have considered washing them, and I used to do that as a hippie, but I already don't wrap and rewrap or use gloves or alcohol or plastic plates, or electricity so I call it a wash.



No judgment from me man, just wondering because zipbags cost an arm and a leg where I'm at :uhoh: I pasteurized casing in the same unicorn bag for 5 rounds now, and it's getting scary :muppet:

But I have to ask, no electricity? What kind of knight are you, that's crazy dude :hatsoff:


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Kloakk]
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You're wondering about the cost of the use of ziplocks but ignoring the fact hes just tossing glass plates lol  you can reuse them a few times if you're using em for clean cultures, but even then you can use them for less sterile things like lunches and candy or whatever

Opening bags outside the sab feels sketchy to me personally.


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

Edited by tryptkaloids (07/03/25 07:07 AM)

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
LadysKnight said:
Same place as used wrap, it goes in the trash. I have considered washing them, and I used to do that as a hippie, but I already don't wrap and rewrap or use gloves or alcohol or plastic plates, or electricity so I call it a wash.



No judgment from me man, just wondering because zipbags cost an arm and a leg where I'm at :uhoh: I pasteurized casing in the same unicorn bag for 5 rounds now, and it's getting scary :muppet:

But I have to ask, no electricity? What kind of knight are you, that's crazy dude :hatsoff:



Oh, I am on solar, but I meant I use a sab instead of ffu/flow.


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It takes guts to be
gentle and kind

Another way to live

Your ego is your nemesis.
Seek the truth tirelessly,
Even at the cost of your own sanity.
-fiddle_head

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
You're wondering about the cost of the use of ziplocks but ignoring the fact hes just tossing glass plates lol  you can reuse them a few times if you're using em for clean cultures, but even then you can use them for less sterile things like lunches and candy or whatever

Opening bags outside the sab feels sketchy to me personally.



Tossing glass plates? Never.
Yeah opening the bag just outside the sab sketched me at first. It was Bod's suggestion, it still works.


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It takes guts to be
gentle and kind

Another way to live

Your ego is your nemesis.
Seek the truth tirelessly,
Even at the cost of your own sanity.
-fiddle_head

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
As a South African I apologize for root3r's behavior.

:lol:



That thin Dutch blood can cause problems.  :wink:


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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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Did I miss the annual shroomery picnic with the glass plate toss? You guys promised to invite me this year


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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
    #29267441 -

See I just wrap my plates and they go into a plastic tote.

My new plates I buy always come bagged and I remove them one at a time and reseal. Nothing besides santized plates and sanitized utensils enter my SAB ever.

My environment is likely more dirty than most so I take absolute overkill precautions. Anytime I’ve had a issue I doubled down on sterile technique and now I don’t have any issues and I’d rather not undo anything.

I cut the wrap off my plates if I’m doing a transfer then sterilize my blade. Doesn’t take much time at all.

What works for me probably doesn’t work everyone else but I didn’t like his attitude 😥 all we want to do is help. It’s kinda a mystery of human nature that we can (I’m just as guilty at times) ask for help or seek it out, and deny said help and react with being upset. It’s common human nature no one wants to take the blame for their mistake. But beautiful things happen when you do. Even if his advice was wrong it was your fault at the end of the day, because you did it. That mindset will set you up for a life of innovation and progress 😉


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Face failure head on and learn something from it
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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth [Re: misterswisher] * 2
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Couldn’t be any easier, takes about 2 mins to bag up a pour of about 60 plates



I used to help myself to the parafilm at the lab that I worked at, this is however, much easier. The only downside is that they are more prone to drying out if not stored properly

I bought a 480 pack of ziplock bags at Costco on sale years ago. The cost per bag without the sale price is 2.5 cents USD

I don’t plan on ever going back

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Re: Cultivation Confessional Booth *DELETED* [Re: misterswisher]
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Post deleted by LadysKnight

Reason for deletion: I deleted this post because it no longer makes sense. root3r is ok by me.


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It takes guts to be
gentle and kind

Another way to live

Your ego is your nemesis.
Seek the truth tirelessly,
Even at the cost of your own sanity.
-fiddle_head

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