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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
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Decided to buy vermiculate from hardware store (huge sack) alot cheaper, rather than small units the other stuff.

Granules are a slightly smaller than the one Ive been using, and also quite alot dirtier? Am I going to face problems here? Should I blast the dirty ones in oven to sterilize smaller amounts?

Left one is hardware store stuff and right is from garden supplies + soak waters.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: W1llyWonka] * 3
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Vermiculite doesn't need to be sterilized and comes in various shapes and colors.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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What is BB Username?

I want to contact the Shroomery Admin about a Supporter's issue, and the Supporters Inquiries ticket/form requires "BB Username," and searches here and online for an answer have been unsuccessful.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: humble student]
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Anyone know if the psilocybin content in PE varieties continues to rise after the veil has torn on them? I know there’s factors such as picking when soft but will this diminish potency per gram?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: humble student]
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Most likely Bullitin board username, the username you use here I assume.

Is this problem related to a shroomery vendor?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SenseiRico] * 1
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SenseiRico said:
Anyone know if the psilocybin content in PE varieties continues to rise after the veil has torn on them? I know there’s factors such as picking when soft but will this diminish potency per gram?


All varieties continue to increase in potency after the veil has broken, veil break has nothing to do with potency.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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^really? i always heard it was the contrary, that at that point the last push was for the spores to be released, and that extra energy wouldn't be spent on potency


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 2
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No. It has to do with what I thought was an issue regarding signing up to be a Supporter, and I subsequently figured out what was necessary to activate being a Supporter; by clicking on "Orders" in my account links.

There's a lot to learn here; I'm enjoying the journey, and am grateful for this Community and the help I continue to receive!

This response is to Derrayld's post/response at 9:07 AM.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: humble student] * 3
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Here’s another tip. If you click on the reply to field it will give a list of previous posts. Press on the post you meant to reply to and you’re done.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 5
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Huskies said:
^really? i always heard it was the contrary, that at that point the last push was for the spores to be released, and that extra energy wouldn't be spent on potency


It's my opinion that psilocybin is linked to reproduction.  As we see it most in fruit bodies.

Secondary metabolism in fruit bodies continues at least until spores are mature, which can happen after the veil breaks.  Psilocybin production is also a secondary metabolic process. So, my suspicion is that as long as spores are maturing psilocybin is being produced, since both are part of the reproductive process.

And spores can continue to develop after the first ones drop.



This isn't a cube, but a mature pan cap that was dropping spores. Some of the spores are still immature, the lighter colored ones that are still developing melanin.

Melanin and psilocybin are both secondary metabolic processes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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Got it! Learning Curve.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: humble student] * 2
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Howdy, it's me - the guy with dismally low success rates with agar wedge inoculation again. Thanks to all who weighed in!

callmehippie - special shoutout to you for pointing me to that bod video. I must have glanced past it when I looked at that page before, but that is exactly what I was looking for! From watching that, I think my technique is mostly pretty good although I would probably do well to grip my scalpel a little further up the handle. Also I think I would benefit from a little bigger SAB. I'm using a 64 qt and it gets cramped with more than a few jars and petris in there.

I'm leaning towards my issue being mostly from working in a dirty ass room with lots of currents. My "lab" is also where the kitty litter boxes are. Also, I was growing weed in this same room for a while (currently on hiatus) so there are soil particles everywhere. I feel like I have seen a little bit of everything in my lurking - everything from "I set my SAB up in my crawl space and get 90% success rates get on my level n00bs" to more strict lab procedure like what misterswisher describes. I'll admit, I think I got a false sense of security from doing my first PF Tek run with no appearance of green mold (which I assume is trich but I have no way of really confirming). So my dumb ass was like "damn, let's get a little crazy and try some agar stuff" and I am currently in a process of getting humbled continuously by it.

Lid failure is something I hadn't really considered but might explain some stuff too. I have about 10 SFDs that I ordered from a reputable myco vendor. I've been using them with flipped standard mason jar lids, and what i've noticed is that since the SFDs are kind of thick, the threads can't get quite as good of a grip on the jar. I had one jar that was looking good, then I shook it and green mold showed up. I felt the lid loosen a bit while shaking, but thought maybe I got away with it. But I suppose it's quite possible a spore or two got in that way.

I'm committed to making this shit work, so since making that post I've inoculated 8 BRF pucks and 4 rye jars with wedges. Just did the rye this morning - here's a pic:


Later homies :cheers:
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: raccoon_cat] * 1
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it definitely doesn’t hurt to be more clean, there very much is a “fuck it” attitude here some times but i think it pays to be working in a clean area. ngl i don’t think vacuuming is going to solve any of your issues outright, but it’s definitely not gonna hurt. biggest killer of SAB work is definitely going to be drafts & your movement. deffo get a bigger SAB too!! i worked in a 64qt & honestly hated it so much. a 100qt or larger tote with nice big arm holes will be a huge upgrade

the 2 piece lids can be a little tricky, i have a ton of different brands of jars & some rings don’t work on some jars for whatever reason. i like to make sure they tighten down real proper before i PC them so im not caught off guard trying to close it after inoculation

i’d have to strongly recommend you at least try some jars with the seal down (so like, how they are supposed to be used for canning). makes them a little more annoying to work with at first, but i went from having jars on the shelf turn green within two weeks to being able to have a jar sit for months. depending on what your issue is, pests can still get up through the threads & then through some small gap flipping the lid causes. at the very least, having the lids get loose during shaking definitely can cause some problems

i leave the rings a little loose in the PC which seems to help make the lids easier to get off, otherwise you’ll have to kind of use the rim of the ring to peel the lid up. i use magnets to hold it all together & it’s essentially a one piece lid

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse] * 2
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ya bigger sab are whats up


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tripdawg420]
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Any recommendations for eco friendly options for cling wrap or parafilm? And labels? I'm tired of all the single use plastic.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Floret] * 9
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Wax cloth.

Not saying it will be good but it's what people used for a very long time for jelly and pickles and stuff, and it can be autoclaved without much damage. Wax cloth used to be an everyday substance for a lengthy time period.  It is Breathable and water proof. You could cut strips the size of glass dishes and assemble them in a roll like you would have if you used cling.


It's tough to get away from materials that processes were developed around like parafilm for example.

Albert Hoffman and Alexander Flemming both just used unsealed dishes, and slants/tubes with cotton wadding in the top.  The dishes were merely an intermediary and were expected to be contaminated. Slants/tubes were for masters and storage. Dishes in that era were a race against time.  This is why by the time penicillin became a viable antibiotic, people were collecting the urine of the patients that took it to recycle the supply due to cultures being dirty af and contamination ruining around 99% of what was being grown.  The first woman who's life was saved by penicillin barely had enough.  The entire worlds supply was brought to here under military escort and it was around 10g of penicillin in total.  If Flemming sealed his dishes, we likely wouldn't have penicillin at all since it was a contaminant that grew in a dish of his phlem he cultured. Food for thought.  (Flemming.... phlem... Who writes this shit? :laugh2:)

I'm all about reducing plastic usage if I can and this issue is also something I think about regularly.  Cling turns into nanoplastic in short order relatively.

Labels, you can write on glass or plastic directly with a sharpie and just wipe it off with alcohol of any type.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon] * 1
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Phaethon said:
LewDoja said:
Hot pour if there's enough room... it will help bring the hardiest hyphea into the light...


Lew, you seem to really love hot pouring! I'll have to give it a try some time. Usually when I'm pouring, I've made exactly enough to pour couple sleeves of plates (and that's also as much as I'd want to fill the bottle). Next time maybe I'll just make an extra bottle for some hot pour trials. :smile:



Have been using since i was knee-high to a grasshopper, :laugh2:...
I'm not very precise or consistent with pours, especially toward the end when you either have an over abundance or trying to stretch it out enough to finish the sleeve...

But more often than not there's usually some leftover,  and I'm all about "waste not, want not".  So will usually find something(s) that I can add that last little bit onto.

Whether it's a year old plate starting to look thirsty/hungry, or a bacterial (works best if bacteria is not located directly against the wall).... a W.A. that's clean and you'd like to see how it grows with sustenance, or the 10+ year old crispy wafer ag-jar invitro plin that dropped spores.

Even hot pouring on top of a full print that was dropped directly onto the inside of Holy-Grail cups.



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@hazy

:whathesaid:

fk mites.....fk mites..... fk mites....

The reason I dont use the plastic lids ( though I guess some come with a gasket, but that bitch better be cinched tight)

After a few runs the two piece lid gasket isn't as big of a problem as long as you do like H.H said and loosen the ring a bit before PC, and leave it to cool completely before opening up/tightening down

Edited by LewDoja (06/14/25 04:52 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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I wonder sometimes if other people experience blue light the same way I do. Plenty of other people wonder the same, and some have even written books I have not read on the topic from various perspectives. Also if I can only view the construct that I create from the inputs I am receiving, such as waves in the 400-500 nm range, then I am practicing a whole lot of self trust that this construct I am viewing is representative of what is actually happening and that those waves exist to begin with. 

In that regard, synesthesia is a moot concept.

I am glad I trust myself enough to have an existential construct.  It has been and continues to be a wild ride.

QQ:

How do you explain the way you see the color blue, as in, what does blue look like?


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Edited by Nichrome (06/13/25 09:08 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 2
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Nichrome said:
I wonder sometimes if other people experience blue light the same way I do. Plenty of other people wonder the same, and some have even written books I have not read on the topic from various perspectives. Also if I can only view the construct that I create from the inputs I am receiving, such as waves in the 400-500 nm range, then I am practicing a whole lot of self trust that this construct I am viewing is representative of what is actually happening and that those waves exist to begin with. 

In that regard, synesthesia is a moot concept.

I am glad I trust myself enough to have an existential construct.  It has been and continues to be a wild ride.

QQ:

How do you explain the way you see the color blue, as in, what does blue look like?


i don’t think you can with language, someone born blind could never comprehend by descriptions alone, idk how you properly explain a qualia like that to someone that doesn’t have that sense right? unless tech was invented to provide that. but even still i don’t think you could really “prove” the same blue you see is the same as me unless we could swap bodies or something

how do you know i actually exist at all? isn’t everything just a projection of your perceived reality?? the whole brain in a jar idea…

LewDoja said:
Phaethon said:
LewDoja said:
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@hazy

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fk mites.....fk mites..... fk mites....

The reason I not use the plastic lids ( though I guess some come with a gasket, but that bitch better be cinched tight)

After a runs the two piece lid gasket isn't as big of a problem as long as you do like H.H said and loosen the ring a bit before PC, and leave it to cool completely before opening up/tightening down


dude FUCK mites. took me way too fucking long to figure out they had been sneak fucking me. i had some plastic lids work too, but they seemed to have some sort of built in gasket like you said, had an SFD silicones to it tho & i cranked that shit down once it was out of the PC for sure.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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I'd like to share with you one of my favorite thought experiments.

Alice is a scientist. She has lived her entire life in a black and white room. Alice has every conceivable scientific instrument at her disposal (except a color camera and a monitor LOL). She can tell you the wavelength of light, how much energy it has, how other colors mix with red together to make new colors. But her entire existence has been in black and white. One day the door to her lab opens and she is allowed to go outside. She sees a red rose and says "Oh THIS is what we've been talking about this whole time. This is red."

What is red really? Is it light at around 3000K? Or is the experience of that light, something that could never be measured? What does it mean to people that are red colorblind? In your case, if it is the experience, then your perception is what dictates what the color is. Otherwise, it exist separately from the experience. Which raises a lot of questions itself.

I think that it's a matter of your body evolved to handle these colors, in a certain way, a way that can also break given certain genetics or say, if you took a bunch of hallucinogens. Is it representative of reality? Probably not, but it's also the best we can do, and other people are probably seeing something similar since we're all cousins.


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