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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
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I saw the green, just figured you didn't need it pointed out.....but yea, it won't be long.

verm only has worked for me before, but I'd rather use jiffy, between the 2.  I much rather peat/lime/gypsum and pasteurized, but jiffy has been great when I've got too much going on and I can just scoop it out of the bag and onto the sub.

can't help with the JCM, but it's probably more of a culture issue than a fc issue.....are all of your trays from the same inoculant / spawn?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger]
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I have 4 trays from two different plates. All went into 6 AIO jars with Manure/Coir/Millet PC'd for 3.5 hours and left to colonize for about 3 weeks.

I had some manure tea coir and plain coir done up. I mixed 3 of the AIO jars with each type of coir and put that into 2 trays each.

The straight coir grew nicer, which is the ones I cased with Verm:




The manure tea coir trays didn't grow as nice, but they were the ones that pinned outside the FC.




I'm picking up some peat this weekend and some lime sometime next month. I plan to make my own casing eventually, just not there quite yet. I'm also getting some straw this weekend to cover my lawn when I reseed, and I'm going to put some of that that away for my next round of pasteurization.

I'm torn between improper pasteurization and my culture being the cause of the green. Nothings growing in the bucket I keep the manure tea coir in, so I'm leaning towards the culture.

I have some more cultures on agar right now that I'm working on cleaning up atm from a different source of spores. I'm thinking of running them in rye grain (because it's what I have the most of) and trying the manure tea coir again next time.

This is my 4th try at pans. The others greened out before I even got pins, so I am making some progress.

I'll swap the cased trays out of the FC for the pinning ones. I'm sure the cased ones can survive a few days with just a lid.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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Just fmi: I am jumping through several hoops to get away from the green. But might it just be the case pans suffer from trich more? With their whispy myc and very high fruiting temps, N-supplemented subs etc?

I mean even Tree, in my eyes some kind of demigod, wrote about 90% trichiness recently. I've grown a lot of cubensis, a lot of azurescens and Ps cyan, and 10-20 tubs each of galindoi and cinctulus, but nothing slapped me in the face like these tropical pans.

Or it's my sucky technique, might very well be, might very well be


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 3
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Nah, was penicillium mostly.  Was running my pastuerizer to hot.  Then came the cold weather and stalled grows, casings eventually went, then the gnats in the spring.

Before all that I tried yeast in some plates but ended up with biofilm on everything I germinated.  So...  it's been a rough year.

I think it's just more moving parts between casings and compost.  Higher temps promoting more competition.  And mycelium that's quick but not exactly aggressive in exploiting resources (no rhizomorphic growth).


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Churpee Choozle said:
As I understand there's several Panaeolus species (like P ater) that could pass for cinctulus, but that looks very much like the cincts I grew and the print seems to check out too.

If you grow it, it will indeed make little stones and the stones will turn blue (or green) really fast.

For comparison: next to a cube


Pinning


Maturing


I'm pretty sure it's the real thing Edit: checked out some foenisecii outside and it also really looks like those. I guess I haven't been looking at local pans for a long time. Anyway if it forms yellowish stones on agar, that spontaneously turn green / blue upon ageing, it's the real thing.



Alright right then, thank you! I guess I'll have to grow it out and see how that goes. Is there any way to know for sure other than microscopy?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 2
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Thanks Tree! Yeah, I've had a lot of issues with mites / gnats too. And I'm sloppy.

Skansk, mine would sometimes show bluing on the bases of the stipes, I mean, that's a sure shot. But AFAIK that, and the jet black print, are the only macro visual keys.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Churpee Choozle said:
Thanks Tree! Yeah, I've had a lot of issues with mites / gnats too. And I'm sloppy.

Skansk, mine would sometimes show bluing on the bases of the stipes, I mean, that's a sure shot. But AFAIK that, and the jet black print, are the only macro visual keys.



Alright, I'll go grab a few more and see if they have any blueing at the base, I don't remember if any of the other ones I picked had any blue shade. Thank you so much for the input!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 4
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tree frog said:







So far so good.  Turned the fans up a couple of notches.  And dialed the humidifier up to medium to account for the extra hoses.


Borrowed a lot from Jake and Pheno's autotub builds.  I'll likely put a seed mat on one to trigger pins and then fruit everything at room temperature.

The tray is mystery sa, it pinned in the tent but I figured it was a good opportunity to dial these in.  Plus the little tent is being repurposed soon.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 6
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Took a few caps off for prints, stems went in the fridge because I don't have enough volume for a dehydrator run.



Also harvested some cubes, so I tried 2g wet of that for a microdose to try a new variety. Felt a nice lil buzz, then decided time to try a stem as well.

No one had told me that bisporus were delicious? What is that flavor, almost like a vanilla milk?

what's your recommended first timer dose for bisp. washington? Do they lose more than cubes when dehydrated? Is fresh THE way to take them? WHat about fresh tea?

Also, are they around 90-92% water as well or even more?


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Edited by Huskies (06/12/25 11:12 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Huskies] * 3
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You could always put those stems in ya mouf. No dehydrator needed!

:trippinbawelz:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Huskies] * 2
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Huskies said:
what's your recommended first timer dose for bisp. washington?


I did 1,55g(dry) of first flush Bisporus, you can read about it here, should give some clues to what you want, or not :muppet:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Nice! I just munched on a fresh stem and definitely feel something but that ain’t for today.

Would you say they are 6-8% dry matter or even less?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Huskies] * 8
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My first bispo

Mice ploughed the other bed, but these ones are intact luckily



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 4
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Imagine being a mouse. You’ve been alive like 2 months. You know nothing but those 2 months of frantic life in survival mode.

And you eat a Bisporus fruit the length of your body.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Huskies]
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Huskies said:
Nice! I just munched on a fresh stem and definitely feel something but that ain’t for today.

Would you say they are 6-8% dry matter or even less?


Even less, like 5-7%. It was manageable, but a little dissociative around peak :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 4
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Imagine being a snail that just wants to get high



It's mates have been slobbering the subtrop beds.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 3
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Shoebox S2B, MIB RS, heavily guarded, thanks little fellow!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Wedgie] * 3
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think i need to grow something beside cubes :headbang3:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Churpee Choozle said:
Imagine being a snail that just wants to get high



It's mates have been slobbering the subtrop beds.


A ring of diatomaceous earth will bring death to your garden foes. It even works with rodents to some degree - they don't like walking across it from my observations.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 10
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TTBVI.
Second flush



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