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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 5
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Posted in cult pic of the day thread as well but couldn't hold back my excitement :flexin:

After many years away from the hobby. Today I finished my second greenhouse and humidifier build.



I asked Tree frog and re-read Asuras write up several times.

Still curious about what people that use a controller like me (Ink bird).

What setting you use? Last time I want to say I used 95%RH and for the humidifier to turn back on at around 90%RH.

Seems to me people these days focus more on getting as much fae ad possible and little bit less focused on keeping humidify as high as possible?

Any feedback back is much appreciated:takingnotes:

Pretty sure I'm just overthinking as usual though:shrug:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 1
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Puduwoke said:
Posted in cult pic of the day thread as well but couldn't hold back my excitement :flexin:

After many years away from the hobby. Today I finished my second greenhouse and humidifier build.



I asked Tree frog and re-read Asuras write up several times.

Still curious about what people that use a controller like me (Ink bird).

What setting you use? Last time I want to say I used 95%RH and for the humidifier to turn back on at around 90%RH.

Seems to me people these days focus more on getting as much fae ad possible and little bit less focused on keeping humidify as high as possible?

Any feedback back is much appreciated:takingnotes:

Pretty sure I'm just overthinking as usual though:shrug:


Here’s a useful snippet from this thread Jartha

JOC Martha aka Jartha


The aspect of this tek that really makes it a "JOC" tek is the cycling of your chambers humidity. Pans love evaporation taking place on the surface of the substrate. Not only does it induce pinning but it encourages the fruits to grow bigger fuller and thicker. To achieve this evaporation you need 2 things: FAE and heat.

Once you crank up the temp you will notice your sub will quickly dry out, and while you can hand mist several times a day to keep it going before the pins arrive u once they do if you mist them you will kill them. This means you must water by hand with a syringe and if your cranking your evap you will be hand watering all day lol.

So the way the jartha works is the fogger kicks on filling the tent. Then, while the fogger is still running, I have the fan (a bathroom fan down low than sucks air in thru the hepa filter mounted to the top of the tent) set to kick on so that it drags the fog down into the casings of the trays (the fogger is also up top feeding down). Then the fogger kicks off and the fan continues to run for 45 seconds  to 1min (I'm constantly adjusting times slightly as the room rh changes) pulling in a bunch of hot dry air into the tent down across the trays and leaving the tent a dry hot place. This is when most of your evaporation takes place.

The tent will sit like this for about 10 min then the fogger will kick back on and the re-hydration stage starts up and the cycle repeats. now I can crank my evap and it waters itself without frying my fruits.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: EniQma] * 1
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I read that one several times as well and I know Jake has amazing grows.

But they way he writes just doesn't always makes a lot of sense to me. Could be my lack of english:shrug:

Asuras write ups are waaay easier for me to understand and follow along with.

Edited by Puduwoke (05/18/25 01:20 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
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Does anyone have any insights as to why second flush fruits may be growing shorter?

Sometimes my second flushes dont grow at all, the cake doesn't visibly contaminate, it's just that nothing else grows.  Or if I get another flush, it generally is super tiny fruits compared to the first flush.


Edited by Timestop413 (05/18/25 03:59 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 4
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Puduwoke said:
What setting you use? Last time I want to say I used 95%RH and for the humidifier to turn back on at around 90%RH.



Hey man, unfortunately no one is going to be able to give you a magic number here. For your environment, you will
have to figure out your numbers.

For your new setup, run a "stunt tray" in there for 10 days. Just a tray of some kind of sub that you can reach
in with your hands and touch, squish and generally fuck about with. You'll get a good idea if your sub is drying
out, get a chance to fiddle with your controller and dial the settings in, etc.

My humidifier is there just to provide "high enough" humidity. Honestly, I keep mine at 91-92%. In my environment
I have rapid evap, so I expect to add water by hand every day. A damp casing layer is...100% humidity on the surface.
So, you just want to come up with something that allows evap and keeps your trays from drying out too quickly.

Expecting my humidifier to also do the duty of keeping my trays properly hydrated is just too much for me personally.
I expect to water once a day and that is what I go for. I never have to worry about overshooting conditions and
flooding out my trays.

Also, get a good feel for the weight of your trays the day you put into fruiting. Then you can just give them
a casual lift during fruiting and be able to tell whether or not things are getting too dry.


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Cultivating Panaeolus cyanescens


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
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Rhank you so much for this thought of answer Asura.

You always manage to come to my rescue:bow2:

Will do this today!:leocheers:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
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After four failed attempts, I’ve finally achieved full pinset coverage across my tub! Thank you all for your guidance and company.
I’ve been running my tub slightly on the wetter side, tiling the tray every 12–24 hours. The entire surface is now covered with pinsets. I have a low-speed FAE fan running continuously, along with an exhaust fan that cycles 5 minutes every 30 minutes. Now that pin sets have formed, what’s the consensus on adjusting parameters? Should I:
   
  •     Reduce humidity slightly to prevent pooling but avoid drying out.
  •     Reduce humidity + increase FAE to balance moisture and fresh air.
  •     Keep parameters constant since pins are developing well.


Any advice on fine-tuning at this stage would be appreciated!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MalluShroomer] * 3
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They might want more oxygen to mature well, as mushrooms use a lot of energy during fruit development.  And like animals, use oxygen to burn energy.

But you might have to increase rH to keep caps from drying out if you introduce more air.  As more air means more evaporation.  And the fruit bodies don't benefit from the microclimate of the tray or casing as much.

My advice would be to let this first one ride tbh.  And if the fruit bodies don't develop the way you like, you'll have a better understanding for next time.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (05/19/25 10:33 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 7
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Taking another kick at the pan can.

AIO jar that was spawned 48 hours ago and cased immediately with jiffy mix.

I saw the first signs of recovery after 24 hours.



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I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 20
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Blue springs redspore 2nd wave

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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That bottom clone is gorgeous fam!


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
Blue springs redspore 2nd wave



Amazing.

You've got tubes running to them.  Bottom watering?  On a timer?


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Psilocybe Taxonomy

Panæolus Species

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke]
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That would be a JCM tub. Check it out here!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dkeppel]
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:whathesaid:

There’s a small air stone under each tray that runs continuously

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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fahtster said:
Blue springs redspore 2nd wave



:manofapproval::trippinbawelz::heart::heart:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 6
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Truly decrepit looking subs going on their 6th wave lol
Should've dumped these motherfuckers 2 weeks ago :oldman:




ps,
utterly hate spore overload scent..yuck


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
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Asura said:
Expecting my humidifier to also do the duty of keeping my trays properly hydrated is just too much for me personally.
I expect to water once a day and that is what I go for. I never have to worry about overshooting conditions and
flooding out my trays.




What is the downside to overshooting/flooding trays?  Like what do you notice?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Timestop413]
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Timestop413 said:
Asura said:
Expecting my humidifier to also do the duty of keeping my trays properly hydrated is just too much for me personally.
I expect to water once a day and that is what I go for. I never have to worry about overshooting conditions and
flooding out my trays.




What is the downside to overshooting/flooding trays?  Like what do you notice?


A big sloppy ass wet mess, mostly.


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Cultivating Panaeolus cyanescens


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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fahtster said:
Blue springs redspore 2nd wave



Dude, those look so killer. Blue Springs is a great variety so it's cool to see it still in rotation.

You had a chance to assay these? I remember them being pretty easy going.


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Cultivating Panaeolus cyanescens


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 4
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Asura said:
Timestop413 said:
Asura said:
Expecting my humidifier to also do the duty of keeping my trays properly hydrated is just too much for me personally.
I expect to water once a day and that is what I go for. I never have to worry about overshooting conditions and
flooding out my trays.




What is the downside to overshooting/flooding trays?  Like what do you notice?


A big sloppy ass wet mess, mostly.


:lol:

I will translate.

Pans like to breathe, and if you're casing is a big sloppy ass wet mess, they can't.

But they like very high humidity at the surface during pinning.  So the idea is to keep your casing microclimate damp, but not saturated.

Essentially, a fine dew is what you want.  Rather than a big sloppy ass wet mess.

This was bispo cased a bit thicker than a lot of folks case. But it pinned well and
demonstrates the idea of fine dew.



Edit:  a cyan tray that's cased very thinly which is more traditional, this one is in pinning now and it's a little hard to see but all of those tiny specks in the picture are dew drops.



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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (05/20/25 07:36 PM)

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