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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FunnyFungiName]
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bet it would be the ttbvi-im still absolutely amazed how its mycelium is so much more vigorous than my panhawaii in comparison...
but to be fair i (sadly) never came across one of the other Panaeolus ie. bisporus, cambodia tropicalis etc.
This is where i would joint on the question: which Variants would you guys suggest to go next after ttbvi/hawaii? (actives preferred)
THX, guys!:stoned:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FoxBox] * 1
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FoxBox said:
the one mushroom with the small cap but a veeery long stipe---where does it come from? is it a tall one wanting to escape the bunch or does it grow on the cap of the other one? :eyeball::eyeball:
my eyes hurt after 15 min trying to figure it out, but it is a good thing in this case! :grin:


Haha that lil guy seems to have hitched a ride as the larger one grew upwards. It’s attached via myc & a smidge of casing, so I’m guessing a knot got snagged

FoxBox said:
bet it would be the ttbvi-im still absolutely amazed how its mycelium is so much more vigorous than my panhawaii in comparison...
but to be fair i (sadly) never came across one of the other Panaeolus ie. bisporus, cambodia tropicalis etc.
This is where i would joint on the question: which Variants would you guys suggest to go next after ttbvi/hawaii? (actives preferred)
THX, guys!:stoned:


Cyan MiB was my third pan & is still in rotation today. It’s a TTBVI cross so it has that oomph but it’s more fun to look at & I enjoy the trip much more. Cyan Blue Springs is quite compliant. It isn’t nuke-level potent, but the trip is reaaaaaal nice. Cambos are a treat to grow & eat. See if you can get your hands on 3AM’s Cyan Bbar, that one bangs


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 4
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So yeah... One of my TTBVI trays has gotten the green nasty. Nevertheless it is still producing quite nicely! I don't expect another flush and the cake is isolated by itself in another room now.

The other 2 trays are still going strong with plenty of pins and no clear signs of contamination so far. Next time I'll not be cutting any corners so that I can avoid contamination but at the time I didn't have much choice.

Here are some cute AF pins on the green nasty cake! I hope they don't abort on me.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FunnyFungiName] * 2
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TTBVI worked for me.  Just have to be able to work with agar. 

Cubes were very forgiving.  Ochras were even more forgiving.  Pans (including TTBVI, require more care).  Not necessarily harder, but not as forgiving of contamination.  Just listen to people on here.  0.5% lme agar is what I used.  Started with spore prints.  One I got from a vendor had so much trich in it that I could not get it cleaned up.  Got one from generous soul on here and got wispy fast growing mycelium with no contams right away. Did 1 transfer and then used a wedge from t1 plate (it was pristine) I used gordotek on patreon for substrate and casing ratios.  Sterilized everything longer (like 3 hours at 15 psi ;  he only recommended like 70 minutes which is not enough; imho)

Transferred wedges to sterilized no prep millet in quart jars.

Substrate was 4:2:1 hydrated coir:black cow (tractor supply):vermiculite.  Add water to field capacity.  Place in unicorn bags and sterilize.  Jars would be fine as well.  I just like bags for substrate for larger grows.  10 quarts coir:5 cow crap: 2.5 vermiculite with handful of gypsum.  This give about 18 quarts which fills 6 unicorn 3t (i think that is right number) nicely.  This is good for 1 batch in american 941 pressure cooker.

1 quart of fully colonied spawn to the substrate bag.  Shook jars and bags a couple times along the way.  Millet is great to work with because it does well with no preop and gives a whole lot of inoculation points to quickly colonized substrate.  I let substrate consolidate a few days after I was sure it was fully colonized. 

Then transferred to 10x20 seed trays with humidity domes.  Crushed it up with nitrile gloves (cleaned with isopropyl) and gently packed it down.  1 bag gives 1-1.5 inches in seed tray.  Cover with dome.  No air exchange for several days until starts colonizing top.

Case with 50/50 sterilized peat moss/vermiculite.  No nutrients.  Added pickling lime to ph 8 (inhibits trich).  I sterilized my casing in quart jars and 1 quart jar cases 1 10x20 seed tray.

Mist to get casing moist, but not soaked. Air vents full open and lids cocked sideways to allow more fae.  You have to get a feel for this.  Too wet and not enough fae and you get lots of fuzz.  Too dry and things dry out and stop growing.

When I get pins, I make sure I am misting sides of domes frequently and plenty of air exchange.  I have misted the pins themselves too much and made them abort (not good).  Some grows have tolerated direct misting better than others.


Pics below are from this technique.  2 of these are out in a room with lid on and 1 is in tent with humidifier going and lid off. 1st time I've tried the tent humidifier setup.

Hoping to get some prints off these and share.  They seem to fruit well and are absolutely melt your face off potent.  500mg had me completely blown away by the cosmic wink.  1g was too much really and 680mg was best trip of my life.

These are off of a print I made and sent to agar.  So this is a full circle grow if these make it to maturity.







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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 14
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Panaeolus olivaceus:


I fucked up with these TBH, which is a shame because I got a massive pinset but they are mostly looking pretty sickly and the tub smells a bit off.

I used some slightly sour smelling straw/manure in my bulk and I really should have just tossed it, and started over.

I will clone the nicest fruit and give the clone culture a try :super:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dkeppel]
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I'm sure their struggle has built character :super:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dkeppel]
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I haven't tried cloning ttbvi.  I did succeed with spore prints.  The fruits are so tiny, I think I would have to find a new cloning technique.  For cubes, I rinsed outside with isopropyl and then cut open stem with scalpel and harvested a small piece of tissue and placed on agar.

How will you be cloning these fruits?  Just cut a section of stem and put the whole section on agar and do a transfer to clean it up?

Just curious.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 2
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MojaveMyc said:
Cyan MiB was my third pan & is still in rotation today. It’s a TTBVI cross so it has that oomph but it’s more fun to look at & I enjoy the trip much more. Cyan Blue Springs is quite compliant. It isn’t nuke-level potent, but the trip is reaaaaaal nice. Cambos are a treat to grow & eat.


Your MiB RS is glorious, beautiful and strong but not handicap level strong as TTBVI. This one is a true magician (PHV/NecD).

I'm still working on the pan jams and hopefully run them again before June.

Peace River will always remain my favorite out of all pan cyans.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 6
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Peace River (one of my oldest cultures) was crazy huge and gorgeous as always. :heart:



TTBVI same old boring outcome..meh :oldman:




Redheads made a beautiful impression... and they were absolutely delish :heart:



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 3
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Much the same except I split the fruit stipe in half with my fingers and I do not use iso at all in this hobby.

Then I try my best to take a clean inner tussie sample and put it to BRF puck because they help immobilise bacterial growth and then I'll let the sample grow out for a bit before transferring from BRF puck to agar.

An alternative to BRF pucks would be to use the cabin sequencing tek or try your luck using the same procedure as you would a cube but with the expectation of contamination i.e. do multiple plates to hedge your bets.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 4
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MojaveMyc said:
Cyan MiB was my third pan & is still in rotation today. It’s a TTBVI cross so it has that oomph but it’s more fun to look at & I enjoy the trip much more. Cyan Blue Springs is quite compliant. It isn’t nuke-level potent, but the trip is reaaaaaal nice. Cambos are a treat to grow & eat. See if you can get your hands on 3AM’s Cyan Bbar, that one bangs


Nice to hear.. I’ve got a few blue spring trays starting to pin (I think the print was from you actually).


astra said:
Peace River will always remain my favorite out of all pan cyans.


Also nice to hear.. I’m about to transfer peace river off a grab and drag plate


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 3
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astra said:
MojaveMyc said:
Cyan MiB was my third pan & is still in rotation today. It’s a TTBVI cross so it has that oomph but it’s more fun to look at & I enjoy the trip much more. Cyan Blue Springs is quite compliant. It isn’t nuke-level potent, but the trip is reaaaaaal nice. Cambos are a treat to grow & eat.


Your MiB RS is glorious, beautiful and strong but not handicap level strong as TTBVI.


Yeah you’re right there but by that oomph I mean it’s aggressive like it’s parent, as homie’s asking about ease of cultivation. Hot take here but I think the quality of TTBVI’s trip is no bueno. Cubes squared. Bbar is better in that regard, potency is on the level & quality of the trip is much more enjoyable for me.


fahtster said:
Nice to hear.. I’ve got a few blue spring trays starting to pin (I think the print was from you actually).

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Hellll yeah brother. Interesting pheno on that one, I’ll be tuned in to see em! That one came from Sleepydave the 🐐


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 8
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Panaeolus hoogshagenii nom. prov.


...kidding

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 4
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Lmfao you had me there ngl


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 2
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MojaveMyc said:
astra said:
Your MiB RS is glorious, beautiful and strong but not handicap level strong as TTBVI.


Yeah you’re right there but by that oomph I mean it’s aggressive like it’s parent, as homie’s asking about ease of cultivation. Hot take here but I think the quality of TTBVI’s trip is no bueno. Cubes squared. Bbar is better in that regard, potency is on the level & quality of the trip is much more enjoyable for me.



Yep, I was afraid my post was going to be misunderstood (my grammar level is that of a 5 year old, sadly). My apologies Mojave :hug:
By MiB Ginger NOT being as impaling/nuclear strong level as TTBVI, i'm pretty grateful. It is STRONG make no mistake but you will be able to open your eyes, walk around and do stuff. TTBVI renders me as if i was quadriplegic. Sometimes it goes beyond monster level and makes me wish i had a wheelchair because of the severe vasoconstriction/cramping in my legs nd toes. i'm a small gal so i can easily take 2ft of bridge/3~4 FAT nuggets of clone B and enjoy over 18+ hrs of ethereal and pure bliss without any complications. :heart:

TTBVI = Medical grade Meth + STRONG Lucy (800ug)

MiB RS = Lucy (600ug) + Molly-like feelings of euphoria

Peace River = Lucy (400ug) + DMT'ish


Cactus fruit salad = Transcendent


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 2
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SupaThaRipper said:


Panaeolus hoogshagenii nom. prov.


...kidding



:canthelpbutlaugh::heart::heart:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 1
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Hitchhike through the galaxy, at least he is with his bigger brother haha:rolleyes:
Also thank you guys for "categorising" these varieties to us noobs-may i ask about your experiences with PanCyan Hawaii in regards to overall quality? Im undecided if i as a lightweight shaman should eat ttbvi first or hawaiian, cultivation wise i wasnt able to make out any noteable differences up to this point.
have a nice day, you all!:sunny:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: FoxBox] * 11
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I’ve never tripped on Hawaii. Def report back when ya get around to it. Do whichever one speaks to ya 🧘🏾‍♂️

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Harvesting Cambo Sandoz today. Pretty thangs



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 10
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Posting after Mojave feels kind of self destructive, but frack it. My 2 first trays of TTBVI. They where in such a hurry didn't even get to case it(probably a little bacterial), but I'll get prints and that is a win, also having a hard time dialing in the new dreamer tubs(different size tubs and different humidifier then my first build), but I'll get there eventually :muppet:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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We’re all on the same team here!
:winning:


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