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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: HoodedBingling]
    #29172172 -

thanks kirkeng.  I don't live where they'd be fruiting, so hopefully i can make it over there more often at the crucial time to mist more.

thinking of trying an xls bag grow/maybe baggie lid fahtlock inspired, and possibly an old mini mono tote thing, if i have enough extra from the outdoor mission.

how do y'all think sterilized hemp would do with a casing, vs a manure/hay sterilized mix?  seems like an extra large EF TEK cake, but my intuition says they'd prefer manure...

If i'm sterilizing, colonizing sterile in an xls bag seems to make more sense to keep it sterile, rather than spawning to a tote... i'd like to avoid pasteurizing.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kingboomer] * 1
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kingboomer said:
Moving right along!




Gave the verm a soaking, cake caught some spray too.  How's it looking?


-Kingboomer






So I've done some reading, and it looks like I'm on the right path.  I would still like some confirmation from someone more experienced than I am, please!


-Kingboomer


P S.  I can handle being told I fucked up lol


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I'm just a clown dancing to the sins of mankind.

-Captain Spaulding

Back in business - ICBM 2.0
Cake wars III

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kingboomer] * 4
    #29172202 -

10ish days to colonize.


P.Bisporus



P. Tamp


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Astra said:

“Peace River has a gentle personality, yet TTBVI hit me like strong LSD with a twist of medical grade meth. Not for the faint of heart.”

Team Panaeolus

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng] * 3
    #29172228 -

That's my impression too. At least with the two bispo collections that I've grown.  They also turn white after printing.

Both of these were grown under a lot of light.  Which increases evapration and likely contributed to these caps.

Coleville.  Late flush so a bit neglected.  You can see a few white caps here where they dried out at some point before they matured.



San Diego, again a later flush.  White caps probably got dry.



There are some small visual differences between the two strains.  San Diego has slightly more red in the caps. But as far as I can tell, the white caps are environmental.

Edit:  I also see it more on later flushes. I think it's a combination of low spore load and bleaching/drying.  As the nutrients deplete so does the colonies ability to make spores. And it seems like they might be less potent too in later flushes.  Ate 10g fresh fourth flush and I think mostly what I got was placebo.

Edit two:  looking forward to getting pan Oregon on grain. Just going to let the plate run out for a couple more days.  It's likely bisporus, I believe kirking has seen the photos from the original collection.  We'll get it scoped once they fruit.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (03/29/25 08:44 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
    #29172513 -

where/when were they found in oregon?  any links?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Generic]
    #29172522 -

Kirkeng got it from the collector I believe.  I don't know that there's an Inaturalist observation on it or where exactly in Oregon it was found.

Maybe he can chime in if he sees this, otherwise I will bug him about it once I get it to fruit.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kingboomer] * 2
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kingboomer said:
kingboomer said:
Moving right along!




Gave the verm a soaking, cake caught some spray too.  How's it looking?


-Kingboomer






So I've done some reading, and it looks like I'm on the right path.  I would still like some confirmation from someone more experienced than I am, please!


-Kingboomer


P S.  I can handle being told I fucked up lol



Looking good so far to my untrained eyes

Edited by fahtster (03/29/25 02:17 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 3
    #29172724 -

Thanks Faht!  Never too old to learn something new aren't we lol


-Kingboomer


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I'm just a clown dancing to the sins of mankind.

-Captain Spaulding

Back in business - ICBM 2.0
Cake wars III

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kingboomer] * 11
    #29172792 -

100%

So I’m really liking the cv/manure mix.  They even seem more robust and clustering nicely over the straw/manure.  So I’ll be using the cvm going forward. 


Also liking this single air stone 16qt tub.  Seems to be doing the trick.  Might not work well in the dead of winter without a heater but good for now.  The trays are just floating in water and the lid is just set on the rim.  The mature fruits hit the lid so maybe that could be worked on.  Thinking a skinnier tray filled with water and the air stone would work well. 


The ziplock is doing as expected.. not as well as the air stone tub but still producing

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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fahtster said:
100%

So I’m really liking the cv/manure mix.  They even seem more robust and clustering nicely over the straw/manure.  So I’ll be using the cvm going forward. 


Also liking this single air stone 16qt tub.  Seems to be doing the trick.  Might not work well in the dead of winter without a heater but good for now.  The trays are just floating in water and the lid is just set on the rim.  The mature fruits hit the lid so maybe that could be worked on.  Thinking a skinnier tray filled with water and the air stone would work well. 


The ziplock is doing as expected.. not as well as the air stone tub but still producing






I missed it, what's your cvm recipe?  Coir and verm I'm definitely set on, still have a bunch from cube runs.


-Kingboomer


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I'm just a clown dancing to the sins of mankind.

-Captain Spaulding

Back in business - ICBM 2.0
Cake wars III

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kingboomer] * 1
    #29172853 -

Just 50/50 cv/manure.  I used aged hpoo

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 16
    #29172854 -

My second ever pan pin. Here’s hoping more come in than that!



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A Love Letter to New Growers
The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

:kodama:


Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 3
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fahtster said:
100%

So I’m really liking the cv/manure mix.  They even seem more robust and clustering nicely over the straw/manure.  So I’ll be using the cvm going forward. 


Also liking this single air stone 16qt tub.  Seems to be doing the trick.  Might not work well in the dead of winter without a heater but good for now.  The trays are just floating in water and the lid is just set on the rim.  The mature fruits hit the lid so maybe that could be worked on.  Thinking a skinnier tray filled with water and the air stone would work well. 


The ziplock is doing as expected.. not as well as the air stone tub but still producing




Looking lit AF :mushroom2::mushroom2: The fathloc looks juicy compared to the lone tray i had jailed inside a container (with offset lid) due to lack of space (my JCMs can hold up to 8 trays). It fruited OK but they looked depressed which is understandable.



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:ancientaliens:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #29173180 -

Smellyhobbit said:
My second ever pan pin. Here’s hoping more come in than that!








My dream is to see more and more people growing pans, semps and ochernats, once you're done with those 3, grow the rest of the universe :heart::heart::hug:


ps,
Beware of the consolidating semp jar hoarding addiction. There is no known cure to treat it, you'll know you're balls deep when you run out of empty jars to run a new batch of grain. :eek::sad:


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:ancientaliens:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kingboomer] * 1
    #29173188 -

ReverendMyc said:
Neglect tek for pans is not ideal, but take a look at this thread. It is more focused on pans in tubs. I have had a few neglect successes in tubs, but it has taken a fair amount of dialing in to figure out. My environment is very hot and dry, so what I do is not likely to be ideal for your environment.

It takes time, patience and bit of masochism to figure out how to do things different from the rest of the pack. If you are not following teks it is hard for anyone else to help you. So you need to just dive in and keep trying until you find what works for you.




These tubs of pan cyans went from this to this in 4 days with no attention or misting. Not perfect, but got fruit only misting at casing.



kingboomer said:
Moving right along!




Gave the verm a soaking, cake caught some spray too.  How's it looking?


-Kingboomer



:icecreamsadness:

I have this thing for hydroton, for some strange reason i keep fantasizing they're whoppers.



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:ancientaliens:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 1
    #29173191 -

TheAtlantean said:
10ish days to colonize.


P.Bisporus



P. Tamp





Keep killin 'em fuck yeah :heart::heart:
Those jars looking fire :mushroom2:

:manofapproval:


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:ancientaliens:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra] * 1
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astra said:
ReverendMyc said:
Neglect tek for pans is not ideal, but take a look at this thread. It is more focused on pans in tubs. I have had a few neglect successes in tubs, but it has taken a fair amount of dialing in to figure out. My environment is very hot and dry, so what I do is not likely to be ideal for your environment.

It takes time, patience and bit of masochism to figure out how to do things different from the rest of the pack. If you are not following teks it is hard for anyone else to help you. So you need to just dive in and keep trying until you find what works for you.




These tubs of pan cyans went from this to this in 4 days with no attention or misting. Not perfect, but got fruit only misting at casing.



kingboomer said:
Moving right along!




Gave the verm a soaking, cake caught some spray too.  How's it looking?


-Kingboomer



:icecreamsadness:

I have this thing for hydroton, for some strange reason i keep fantasizing they're whoppers.






I've had a few people ask why I have a tub full of cocoa puffs lol.


-Kingboomer


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I'm just a clown dancing to the sins of mankind.

-Captain Spaulding

Back in business - ICBM 2.0
Cake wars III

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kingboomer]
    #29173202 -

kingboomer said:
astra said:
ReverendMyc said:
Neglect tek for pans is not ideal, but take a look at this thread. It is more focused on pans in tubs. I have had a few neglect successes in tubs, but it has taken a fair amount of dialing in to figure out. My environment is very hot and dry, so what I do is not likely to be ideal for your environment.

It takes time, patience and bit of masochism to figure out how to do things different from the rest of the pack. If you are not following teks it is hard for anyone else to help you. So you need to just dive in and keep trying until you find what works for you.




These tubs of pan cyans went from this to this in 4 days with no attention or misting. Not perfect, but got fruit only misting at casing.



kingboomer said:
Moving right along!




Gave the verm a soaking, cake caught some spray too.  How's it looking?


-Kingboomer



:icecreamsadness:

I have this thing for hydroton, for some strange reason i keep fantasizing they're whoppers.






I've had a few people ask why I have a tub full of cocoa puffs lol.


-Kingboomer




:canthelpbutlaugh::lolsy:

Thank you for that, you just made my night LOL :heart::heart:


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:ancientaliens:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: astra]
    #29173354 -

Hey y'all was wondering if any of you were sourcing hpoo online from ebay. If so,
do you know any good sellers? I found 1 seller that sells 10lbs for $6 and shipping
is $26.

I've been buying from Shroom Supply, but it is overpriced and the shipping
is ridiculous. They're probably skimming off the shipping.

Plus, the last two batches I've received smell like some hobos had a piss party on it.


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Cultivating Panaeolus cyanescens


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
    #29173434 -

tree frog said:
Kirkeng got it from the collector I believe.  I don't know that there's an Inaturalist observation on it or where exactly in Oregon it was found.

Maybe he can chime in if he sees this, otherwise I will bug him about it once I get it to fruit.



Not seen a picture, was received in a trade quoted as “bluing panaeolus” I was leaning towards Bispo from the look of the mycelium on my germination, found in a lawn though. Could be anything really, the spores were very stubborn and took almost 3 months to germinate, this was over a year ago now I’ve not tried to grow them again for a hot minute… I’ll see if I can can get more information.

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