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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 2
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Jrey16 said:
I'll be attempting to grow pan cyan TTBVI soon. I know people have been growing pan cyan in monotubs lately but for a first timer is that recommended? I don't have a tent or anything to grow pan cyan in. Which is the best method to grow pans for beginners? All I have at the moment are monotubs I use for cubes.



Monotubs can definitely work.  If you want something a little easier with minimal investment: grab an air pump and some airstones, put the stones in the bottom of a large tote, cover the stones with water.  Set your pan trays on top of a wire rack and crack the lid to adjust fae.  You can also skip the rack and cover the water with perlite, and set your trays on that.

Essentially, a jcm.  But a little simpler than that setup.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367

And later, if you want more space, you can use the airpump and stones to himidify a 3*2*4 tent (maybe larger even).




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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A friend gave me 20 kgs of millet, so I'm a millet guy now. (You know who you are, make an account, show off your semilanceata work! We're waiting for it).
Did Crackatoa's no prep, 2 cups of grain, 1 cup of water. Vented, PCd for 90 mins, shaken one hour after cycle. God that was easy and mess-free! The result looks rather wet to me though. Would I get away with 2 cups grain, .9 cup water? Or, I'm European and have been raised with gram for gram comparisons, does anyone have a tight weight:weight recipe?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Thank you I appreciate the reply. I ordered a 500ml last night lol. At least I can get the right jars now.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 3
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Yes I do!
Churpee Choozle said:
A friend gave me 20 kgs of millet, so I'm a millet guy now. (You know who you are, make an account, show off your semilanceata work! We're waiting for it).
Did Crackatoa's no prep, 2 cups of grain, 1 cup of water. Vented, PCd for 90 mins, shaken one hour after cycle. God that was easy and mess-free! The result looks rather wet to me though. Would I get away with 2 cups grain, .9 cup water? Or, I'm European and have been raised with gram for gram comparisons, does anyone have a tight weight:weight recipe?





Yes I do! 185g of Millet, 118 of water.

I started weighing both my grains and water for no prep, it has given me more consistent results. Trying to eyeball with measuring cups easily leads to even up to 20 gram variances.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0DDWXPH5N?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image#immersive-view_1740406897771

Bought this Malt Extract Agar mix for my first grow, thought it might be easier for me. Was this a waste of time? Also, do I still need to get yeast I see a lot of recipes call for the malt extract and yeast.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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I do the same no prep millet. Is your millet hulled or unhulled? I use unhulled and it doesn’t clump.

Edited by The Tao (02/24/25 11:20 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub]
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Mub said:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0DDWXPH5N?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image#immersive-view_1740406897771

Bought this Malt Extract Agar mix for my first grow, thought it might be easier for me. Was this a waste of time? Also, do I still need to get yeast I see a lot of recipes call for the malt extract and yeast.



That should work fine, just kinda expensive.
Yeast is totally optional. I got all kinds of stuff like yeast, peptone, charcoal and colorings but I rarely use anything other than the light malt extract and agar.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub] * 1
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Mub said:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0DDWXPH5N?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image#immersive-view_1740406897771

Bought this Malt Extract Agar mix for my first grow, thought it might be easier for me. Was this a waste of time? Also, do I still need to get yeast I see a lot of recipes call for the malt extract and yeast.



Like scemilope said as well: yeast not per se needed. Agar + liquid (water) + some kind of sugar is the minimum. And the 17 dollar for that 100 grams is not per se cheap, but also not a very big loss.

Watch out for the clumping of the Malt extract. And if it gets hard, you don't have to throw it away.

The benefit of sourcing it yourself, is that you can better change the levels. Some use 4% sugar (and some 1%), and some higher and some even 0% sometimes. And also for agar you can differ, based on how hard or soft you want the agar plate. I use 4% by default with my standard local brand.

Good luck with your agar journey!

Edit+: Don't take my word for the 4% agar. Recipes mention lower %.

Edited by cybork (02/24/25 12:37 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Jrey16 said:
I'll be attempting to grow pan cyan TTBVI soon. I know people have been growing pan cyan in monotubs lately but for a first timer is that recommended? I don't have a tent or anything to grow pan cyan in. Which is the best method to grow pans for beginners? All I have at the moment are monotubs I use for cubes.



Monotubs can definitely work.  If you want something a little easier with minimal investment: grab an air pump and some airstones, put the stones in the bottom of a large tote, cover the stones with water.  Set your pan trays on top of a wire rack and crack the lid to adjust fae.  You can also skip the rack and cover the water with perlite, and set your trays on that.

Essentially, a jcm.  But a little simpler than that setup.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367

And later, if you want more space, you can use the airpump and stones to himidify a 3*2*4 tent (maybe larger even).







Ok thanks. I definitely gotta do more research on all that. Monotubs sounds easier though lol. I wonder if you can get away with treating them like cubes in a monotub 🤔


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 1
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Huskies said:
Yes I do!
Churpee Choozle said:
A friend gave me 20 kgs of millet, so I'm a millet guy now. (You know who you are, make an account, show off your semilanceata work! We're waiting for it).
Did Crackatoa's no prep, 2 cups of grain, 1 cup of water. Vented, PCd for 90 mins, shaken one hour after cycle. God that was easy and mess-free! The result looks rather wet to me though. Would I get away with 2 cups grain, .9 cup water? Or, I'm European and have been raised with gram for gram comparisons, does anyone have a tight weight:weight recipe?





Yes I do! 185g of Millet, 118 of water.

I started weighing both my grains and water for no prep, it has given me more consistent results. Trying to eyeball with measuring cups easily leads to even up to 20 gram variances.



Thanks man! This is the kind of exact measurement I can work with.

The Tao said:
I do the same no prep millet. Is you millet hulled or unhulled? I use unhulled and it doesn’t clump.



It's hulled. I don't care if it lumps a little, just don't like how wet it looks. I'd like to cut that out. For the rest... a PC full of rye jars took me several hours, with practice. So this whole no prep thing, no complaints


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 2
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Did you see Baba's pans in monos thread?  I would have linked that in my first response to you but I guess I assumed you had seen it.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27637997/page/1

I'm also working on putting together a resource for pans.  It's probably going to be a week before I get it posted in the main forum but if you want to use it for a resource in the meantime it is here in my journal.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29134199


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork] * 1
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cybork said:
The benefit of sourcing it yourself, is that you can better change the levels. Some use 4% sugar (and some 1%), and some higher and some even 0% sometimes. And also for agar you can differ, based on how hard or soft you want the agar plate. I use 4% by default with my standard local brand.

Good luck with your agar journey!




Holy hell batman - 4% agar.

I bet you never have any problems with bacteria, eh?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
cybork said:
The benefit of sourcing it yourself, is that you can better change the levels. Some use 4% sugar (and some 1%), and some higher and some even 0% sometimes. And also for agar you can differ, based on how hard or soft you want the agar plate. I use 4% by default with my standard local brand.

Good luck with your agar journey!




Holy hell batman - 4% agar.

I bet you never have any problems with bacteria, eh?



Yes, 4%. If I do less with this brand, some of the dishes stay liquid. Tried a lot, but all the time with less than 4%. I THOUGHT THAT WAS NORMAL :spoiled:

Not sure what you mean with no problems with bacteria. Frankly most times when I have contaminants, they more look like black and green molds. But not really sure whether those are bacteria or molds. Mostly the things are fluffy, not like wet dirty spots.

Edit+: Don't take my word for the 4% agar. Recipes mention lower %. For example here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28959224

Edited by cybork (02/24/25 12:38 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mark_M] * 1
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Kind of fun or funny... After harvesting 156 g. wet of fruit from the top of this mound, all the remaining starts just stopped growing. I think the fruiting had dried out the top so I've been misting the top only as the lower portion has been well beaded with droplets. The fruit shown on the top have not grown since before the sides of the mound pinned.

A week later the whole thing is fruiting out all over except on the top, which I've continued to mist. I had thought of roughing up the top a bit and adding some coir to it to see if I could get it reinvigorated but I'm thinking now I'll just let it keep doing its thing. Wouldn't it make a good birthday cake?:smile:





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Just going through and reading agar teks today getting ready to make mine. If I am understanding correctly I can inoculate the agar once it has solidified? Also once I inoculate the Petri dish/agar what is the best conditions to leave them in as far as temperature and lighting?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub] * 1
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Temp and lighting are pretty much irrelevant. You can inoculate as soin as it's solidified, but I (I'm a pourer) always leave them be for a week, to check if they are clean.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Does germinating fresh spores from a spore swab require water or maybe softer or more nutrient rich agar? Nothing's happening for me here ... Or does it just take longer then from spores in a water solution?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23]
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Softer agar is always a plus for spores. How long has it been?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EniQma]
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If harvested too late, the center turns black when cut. Will it be a problem after drying?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EniQma]
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EniQma said:
Softer agar is always a plus for spores. How long has it been?



One plate has been 10 days, the other 6 days ...

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