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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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sounds like actually being enjoyable compared to cubensisshrooms and 4-aco-dmt


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: epilectric] * 1
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Man when mushrooms go perfect, it's the best feeling in the world

But when the terror hits and you feel horrified, oh my god... man, the feels.

I always say the highest of highs comes from shrooms, but so do the lowest of lows

Having to deal with violence and gunshots while tripping, fuck dude.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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Damn that’s why I don’t like tripping in the city in general ! But what can you do sometimes ?
I wanna get high at mushrooms and enjoy a nice walk but I can’t cause it’s not safe anymore to do these kind of things in big cities.
I always semi-worry when I smoke DMT in the balcony if I hear gunshots or screams and that brings a bad vibe.
We should get away from big cities.

Guys one question I had in my mind how often do you smoke DMT ??

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: AlwaysHungry1] * 1
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It's the drug I use most often, other than coffee. Sometimes it's once a day, sometimes I can hit the pen for hours on end, just lightly hitting it, chillin to music and doing whatever  and then maybe blasting off at the end.

Sometimes I go weeks without doing it.

It's just random for me. Whenever the feeling arises to hit it.

I haven't experienced any real notice side effects from doing so. The hardest part I suppose is just keeping the delusions in check, that hitting DMT does not give you lifes answers no matter what you see or feel or think while under the influence.

I've seen people go way down the rabbit hole and just completely get lost in their delusions of grandeur.

It's best to go in with an open mind and just take things with a grain of salt.

On that note, all this DMT posting is making me want to hit the pen. To infinity and beyond!


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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That’s the thing that was kind my next question.

Do you feel regular DMT usage “fry” your brain ? Frying kinda like LSD.

Because I notice my mind it isn’t fried , but because the hallucinations and headspace are so clear and vivid , you can be delusional after especially in the stage where you coming down. It’s very easy to go down in the rabbit hole even from these “low dosages”. Other than that if you have a strong grip in reality and a strong grip on your “ego” can’t see a side effect.
Have you noticed any HPPD the kinda mushrooms or acid can leave for some days after ??

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: AlwaysHungry1]
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Nope. In fact it doesn't seem to impact my trips, either.

The experience is so short lived that your body doesn't build up any notable tolerance nor does it seemingly cause any kind of downregulation, again, due to the very short nature of vaped/smoked DMT.

If you did Aya, that's definitely different though and a tolerance will build to Aya and other psychedelics due to the length of the trip. Anything firing off serotonin receptors for hours will do that.

But nothing a quick break won't solve.

First thing I did when I woke up today was hit the pen and then go for a walk. Makes for a nice morning.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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TrancedOutBrah said: If you did Aya, that's definitely different though and a tolerance will build to Aya and other psychedelics due to the length of the trip.


Surprisingly even oral DMT lacks tolerance, heck one could even technically take it multiple times a day everyday for however long, and it'll still work. I took it for 4 years straight, it always worked. Granted, i do think there's some amount of tolerance that can happen but it's main actions/effects are always there. Some people report a bit of a dampening in visuals but i can't say, i rarely ever got closed eyed visuals even from the beginning, even from smoked DMT.

From what i've read from a few people, it seems like "base compounds" like DMT, NMT, and some others, may not develop tolerance for whatever reason, but it also may just be an endogenous compound thing in that DMT, NMT, maybe even 5-MEO-DMT and Bufotenin, may not have tolerance whereas something like Psilocin, or LSD, or Mescaline does. Either way, i had 4 years of awesomeness with oral DMT and i think it's probably the only natural Psychedelic that can be consumed orally for a full experience that seems to have no tolerance and can be worked with for however long one wants to work with it, which is something no other Psychedelic has, so imo it makes Aya like "the" Psychedelic for regular exploration and learning/study.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
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Huh, really? I'd still worry about downregulation of serotonin from doing that for so long, but I guess if you take enough MAOI's it doesn't really matter anyway.

Or maybe not, beta carbolines are not fully understood yet and can be very healing IME...

It still develops tolerance to other psychedelics tho, namely LSD.

Presumably you could do the same thing with mushrooms with enough MAOI in your system.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried to do psilohausca daily and if so, how were the effects

Fucking gnarly about daily Aya though. That sounds like a crazy 4 years.


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Spread kindness, love, empathy, compassion.

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: TrancedOutBrah] * 2
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Yeah ime the times i've tried dosing Psilohuasca daily, whether using mushrooms or 4-ACO-DMT in combination with Harmalas or Moclobemide, it does indeed seem to lose effect after a few days and then just stops working due to the down-regulation by the Psilocin, but DMT Ayahuasca though or even Changa ime, no real tolerance, i mean like i said you do get used to it a little bit but it still works lol. But yeah Aya for 4 years straight was probably a bit excessive but i had a lot of free time and i was extremely driven to take it and interested by the phenomena that i would experience, eventually though even the most hardcore consumers will back off for awhile lol, heck i myself don't even really feel the need to take it again these days even though i want to or probably do need to but idk i'm just relatively comfortable these days and don't feel the need to shake things up any more than i can help it, i've already been shaken up lately by a situation with my ex so i don't need any more stress at the moment lol.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
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Aww shucks. I was kinda hoping you could keep the gravy train running. Mushrooms really help my depression and anxiety, but the effect always fades after a week or so.

Sounds like you got what you needed from all your experiences. I'm sure the right time will come when the call arises.

Sorry to hear about the ex, it's never fun having to deal with high stress situations.


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Lead by example, words mean little when your actions don't reflect what you say.

Spread kindness, love, empathy, compassion.

Learn from mistakes. Try and do better. Each day is a new day, try to make it a better one.

Coconut and Avocado is awesome for the skin.

MIND OVER MATTER

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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DMT definitely has tolerance for its psychedelic effects, but not so much for its mood effects, so if used every day, you miss the psychedelic magic an only get a shadow of its value.

I have gone through 3 pens to realize that this is unavoidable, a 2 day break is best, but even a 1 day off one day on kind of works.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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its great with friends
especially in a caapi joint
And in a bong
small amounts is great with friends
especially in a caapi joint


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Ferdinando]
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Ground up caapi vine rolled up as a joint?


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I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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TrancedOutBrah said:
Aww shucks. I was kinda hoping you could keep the gravy train running. Mushrooms really help my depression and anxiety, but the effect always fades after a week or so.


Psilocybin has been described as orally active DMT* (indeed, its alternate name is 4-PO-DMT), but it's not the only thing that can be described as such. MET is DMT with one modification, one of the methyls is replaced with an ethyl (i.e. dimethyl.. or methyl methyl..). This alone makes it orally active. DET has two ethyls instead of a methyl. These three-letter analogs have minimal tolerance build-up, like DMT.

Also simple short acting tryp's don't really form tolerance like normal long duration ones.

@Help?!?!, Sep 25, 2013, https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/the-big-dandy-met-thread.255405/post-11849534

I know that all psychedelics present cross tolerance but DET is probably the best choice since it’s a 3-4 hour trip so not insanely short like DMT and the tolerance issue isn’t even half as big as other psychs.

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Shrooms do definitely ramp up my tolerance to the max, I once tried shrooms on day 1 and my usual dose of DET the following day and all the DET did was keep me awake for a few good hours,

MrCorruptor, Feb 7, 2024, https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychedelics/s/3LVAcpX0sc


*Dennis McKenna, "Psilocin and DMT same thing."


FAQ/Tip 020: What Causes Tolerance? Functional Selectivity & GPCR Downregulation; The LSD Tolerance Graph 📉 ; 🔙 Back to the Baseline; Tolerance Calculators (Do not Apply); Further Research: Gq & β-Arrestin Pathways; Other Research: Non-responders❓. NeuronsToNirvana, reddit, Jul 8, 2022


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Northerner said:
I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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so 4 months later
I was off DMT for 3 months, then got some more, then off for 1 month and got some more.

coming into it fresh, it is amazing, an 8 second pull produces spectacular OEV and CEV both animating the shapes in flooring (wood or marble) and layering on geometric kaleidoscopics, and also paradolia "entities" or characters.

later another 8-10 second pull does the same,

etc. on the first day return after a month.

the second day 12 second pulls produce some of the same
the third day day several 8 second pulls work

on the 4th day without a break, the effects are euphoric, and heart racing, but not spectacular visuals.

after that I have been inclined to take 2 10 second pulls back to back and been sorry for it.
no spectacular visuals but the euphoria becomes disphoric heart racing and blood pressure.

So In my opinion the tolerance of DMT to DMT is at least the same as psilocybin to psilocybin, but the fact that I get blood pressure and heart rate effects chasing euphoria and visuals is disappointing.

If I take LSD too often it gives me a lower body tension or arm tension, but not chest constriction. Same with shrooms.

So I will try to preserve the DMT for a once in a blue moon category (hard because it is more-ish like crack) and stick with the shroom lsd and salvia diet for the most part.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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interesting. so DMT does have heart rate + blood pressure rise..

where do u reckon the lower back pain comes from?

1ce in blue moon sounds appropriate


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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sounds nice

glad youre doing salvia almost a lot

salvia : .. :hereyougo:


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Ferdinando]
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how is your business

is it going a little forward with it?

i think it is


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: epilectric] * 1
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epilectric said:
interesting. so DMT does have heart rate + blood pressure rise..

where do u reckon the lower back pain comes from?

1ce in blue moon sounds appropriate


yes DMT has the heart push (a kind of euphoria/dysphoria), nearly as much as amphetamine.

lower back pain can be acquired through minor injuries to connective tissues, wearing out of disks, muscle fatigue etc.
you can get a 40$ velcro back belt with a few metal strips in it and it will provide excellent support for this common pain source.

1ce blue moon is a sequence of letters that I am unfamiliar with.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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sounds like your time would be ok with just shrooms and lsd and is extra super good with salvia!


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