Phaethon said:

nektar61 said:

Janus62 said:

... I'm looking to set up my first martha.,,
Any suggestions for something 'in between' that will provide FAE without a lot of noise would be much appreciated. 
Thanks :-)

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Almost no one does Martha tents here anymore. Most of the poeple growing fat canopies of shrooms are just doing tubs or shoeboxes.

Make it up to field capacity, they're largely set and forget. May need misting occasionally if you're somewhere dry or running a heater fan in a closet on a humidifier in the winter.

But you don't need fans, pumps, or humidifiers for this hobby. That shit is old tek that's been surpassed by simpler quiet things.

Curious, where did you get the idea that it's needed? Something old?

Read my sig line "from spores to trips."

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Tent is totally reasonable for lion's mane and other gourmet, and while people are growing pans in tubs, a tent probably works better for those too.

Janus, if your fan has a CFM rating, you can calculate whether it'll work for you. I think the rule of thumb for gourmets is one full air exchange every 10 minutes.

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Jrey16 said:

When spawning to bulk to you guys use myco quarts or full quarts when measuring substrate?

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RoboShroom said:

what are the water droplets on the mycelium?

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nektar61 said:

Dkeppel said:

.... senescence (Deterioration of the cultures vigor with age).

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Which I and others here have said time and time again isn't something most / all growers will ever run into.

If it was a big deal with this hobby, those strong shrooms with no stems like Enigma that are only spread by clones of clones of clones (etc) would not grow / be potent.

ThurmanMurman said:

.... But then I've seen that cloning a clone is pointless...

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see my above comment in this same reply.

Cloning a clone is pointless if you're trying to chase genetic variations to play with, but it's good if you want to make more of a particular genetic set (pheno) you like.

Though cloning could be used to produce more of one you like to increase selection pool of ones to pick for selection (via spores) or crossing.

(Lew is talking about selection when he says "...selective breeding does, which is how new crosses are stabilized.")

If you get books (like you say you want), avoid Stamets, he states gueses as fact, in fact, a lot of the b.s. we clear up daily from new people on here is from him.

Roger Rabbit has a book that was good in its day but is very outdated.

McKenna brohers were groundbreaking, but their book is 25 years out of date.

Not sure who to suggest, I wouldn't go with any of them (which are still commonly praised). But if you're going for genetics, probably the newer the better. (same with just general mushroom growing.)

Oh, and for videos, that shroom grower on YouTube with the skull mask is full of misinfo.

I still would recommend not worrying about this stuff if you are still posting questions about not being sure if your grows are clean. Walk before you run.

What are you trying to do or learn with genetics?

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Mids said:

Some questions I am thinking about


How many times can you run MP tape jar lids before you need to replace the tape?
a few times, change when they're heavily soiled or easily damaged.


What would the difference between grain water LC and a media bottle with water and 4 single millets floating around in it? are there any threads on the latter?
a big difference of & in available nutes. Just look at the color and amount of sediment at the bottom of grain soak water.

Would stirring flash prep grains more evenly hydrate the grains, or just let out too much steam/heat?
what you mean?
If stirring while in water that's simmering boiling, it could cause damage to kernels.
If already taken out from water stirring will help release steam & is beneficial to the drying process.