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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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It should get solid enough that you can tip it over and support the substrate with the palm of your hand and it will not fall apart. Not that you should test that before it fruits :smile: but this is how I deal with side and bottom fruits.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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Bacteria or some other contamination

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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Hey mate,

I’m not sure how to post directly to the forum but do u mind if I shoot you through some pics and a few questions? I

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LobstaBob] * 1
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Click the little icon. It looks like a picture.
Then you can choose a file off of your phone or computer.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LobstaBob]
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Hey man, I hope u don’t mind me asking u a few questions, I set up a sgfc and brf cakes before realising it wasn’t the most ideal for high yields and less chance of contamination. It’s a long story but these cakes dried out abit and started bruising. I saved them from turning completely blue and the Jack Frost has got pins and baby mush all over it. The other two are different t strains (country cock and lucid gates)

As you can see they don’t look incredible, am I misting and fanning too much too little?




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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How long after germinating should I expect to see some growth?

I have been making pasty plates and practicing just making agar. Finally decided to put some spores to it. And that was on 10/28.

Just looks like the same spore specs as when I greened them


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LobstaBob]
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Anyone know what this ring around the mycelium is? I've seen this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26830564/fpart/1/vc/1
But there's no clear answer what it is?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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First grow from lc and managed to get to this stage. Wondering if this bag is ready to fruit or should I wait for everything to go thick and white? It seems to have slowed and fair amount of yellow liquid starting to form. It's a diy aio bag of yellow oyster, 50:50 masters mix:millet. Or has my bag gone bad? Thanks

Edited by mushyum (11/01/24 11:46 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushyum] * 1
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LobstaBob said:
Hey man, I hope u don’t mind me asking u a few questions, I set up a sgfc and brf cakes before realising it wasn’t the most ideal for high yields and less chance of contamination. It’s a long story but these cakes dried out abit and started bruising. I saved them from turning completely blue and the Jack Frost has got pins and baby mush all over it. The other two are different t strains (country cock and lucid gates)

As you can see they don’t look incredible, am I misting and fanning too much too little?







They don’t look great, but you can ride it out. You only need to mist with a sgfc, don’t fan.


MycoKyle said:
How long after germinating should I expect to see some growth?

I have been making pasty plates and practicing just making agar. Finally decided to put some spores to it. And that was on 10/28.

Just looks like the same spore specs as when I greened them



From spore it can be anywhere from a few days to a few weeks depending on how old the prints are and the species. Be patient grasshopper.


ansr said:
Anyone know what this ring around the mycelium is? I've seen this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26830564/fpart/1/vc/1
But there's no clear answer what it is?





That could just be a leading edge of mycelium or a passenger riding along. Hard to tell from the pictures.


mushyum said:
First grow from lc and managed to get to this stage. Wondering if this bag is ready to fruit or should I wait for everything to go thick and white? It seems to have slowed and fair amount of yellow liquid starting to form. It's a diy aio bag of yellow oyster, 50:50 masters mix:millet. Or has my bag gone bad? Thanks




I’d start fruiting if it were me


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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I see those rings from wet agar from condensation


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle]
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Softer agar helps with spores. From my first vendor ms syringe only 1 plate out of 5 grew any myc and it took almost 8 days. As a good noob I ofc read 15000 threads about spores to agar and I remember some TC saying that softer agar = more water to reactivate the spores = better chances of spores germinating on your plates.

Just be patient on this attempt and try with a lower agar percentage next time (1.2%-1.5%). Good luck!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wall.E] * 1
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Patient, I will be.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushyum] * 1
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mushyum said:
First grow from lc and managed to get to this stage. Wondering if this bag is ready to fruit or should I wait for everything to go thick and white? It seems to have slowed and fair amount of yellow liquid starting to form. It's a diy aio bag of yellow oyster, 50:50 masters mix:millet. Or has my bag gone bad? Thanks




That seems like a hell of a lot of millet. With unsupplemented fuel pellets, I usually use about a pound of grain spawn to 4 lb hydrated wood. Supplemented bags I have less experience with, but even a quarter of that has been plenty when it's supplemented. It probably won't hurt anything, but I imagine you could get away with a lot less grain with a masters mix all-in-one.

Anyway, it doesn't look bad, time to cut some slits or holes before it fruits in the bag!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle]
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cronicr said:
I see those rings from wet agar from condensation



This "ring" I mean. It's like very thin mycelium "hairs", you can see the light reflecting in it from some angles.
I only started this hobby earlier this year so I'm still new to this so I don't know if it was always like that or if it came in later since I didn't know to look for it before I noticed it a while ago. I get it on plates with and without condensation.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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ansr said:
cronicr said:
I see those rings from wet agar from condensation



This "ring" I mean. It's like very thin mycelium "hairs", you can see the light reflecting in it from some angles.
I only started this hobby earlier this year so I'm still new to this so I don't know if it was always like that or if it came in later since I didn't know to look for it before I noticed it a while ago. I get it on plates with and without condensation.




I've seen wispy halos like that on new mycelium (first transfer from spores) that gets less prominent after a couple transfers. Sometimes it's maybe bacterial, though I've seen it on cultures I'm pretty sure were squeaky clean, too - especially with certain agar recipes (for some reason everything grows prettier for me with a bit of yeast added to the agar).

In my experience, at least, nothing to worry much about unless it also looks kind of wet or shiny under the mycelium in the halo. Then it probably is bacterial.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
That seems like a hell of a lot of millet. With unsupplemented fuel pellets, I usually use about a pound of grain spawn to 4 lb hydrated wood. Supplemented bags I have less experience with, but even a quarter of that has been plenty when it's supplemented. It probably won't hurt anything, but I imagine you could get away with a lot less grain with a masters mix all-in-one.

Anyway, it doesn't look bad, time to cut some slits or holes before it fruits in the bag!



I'll definitely try less millet next time, there was 500g and it seemed like a lot/waste. I'll put this block to fruit now, cheers!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
I've seen wispy halos like that on new mycelium (first transfer from spores) that gets less prominent after a couple transfers. Sometimes it's maybe bacterial, though I've seen it on cultures I'm pretty sure were squeaky clean, too - especially with certain agar recipes (for some reason everything grows prettier for me with a bit of yeast added to the agar).

In my experience, at least, nothing to worry much about unless it also looks kind of wet or shiny under the mycelium in the halo. Then it probably is bacterial.



It doesn't look like it's wet at all, not like bacteria wet goo but just like very thin hairs growing straight out in front of the mycelium.
This is from a clone, first transfer.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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This description matches what I got, from this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28834842#28834842

dream.culture said:

Hi sorry about reviving an old thread but I think I have the exact same problem going on with my agar plates. Never had it before but since the last six months it has been the same. A halo leading the mycelium eventually stopping it's growth. The halo looks like very fine rizhomorphic growth in under light. On the surface it appears very shiny and I have been thinking that it is bacteria. I changed pda to lme just to see if that was the problem but it didn't work. I also eliminated simple sugars like corn syrup just as an attempt to inhibit bacterial growth. I tried dipping transfer wedges in three percent hydrogen peroxide and another set of plates with antibiotic doxycycline 50mg/1 litre. Still am disappointed with the same shiny halo. I tried changing spores from 3 different sources and been paying all sorts of attention to sterile technique in my still air box. I'm completely lost here. My first grow as a complete noob back in 2017 went smoothly and I was able to isolate cube myc fairly quickly. But I have been dealing with this curse since more than a year and I am completely flabbergasted. Anyone here to help?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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Tiny fruits veils tearing do I have to harvest these?

I think cake might’ve ran out of water. The mushrooms veils tore yesterday I still haven’t seen any spores I’m debating on if I pull them or hope they grow bigger.
They’ve been slowly growing over the course of 10 days and this is all I got 😭



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: misterswisher]
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You don't have to harvest when the veil tears. If you wait, you'll get more developed caps that will drop spores.

Ten days is a long time from pins to this stage. But they still look immature to me. :shrug: If it's dry, give it a good misting and maybe a bottom watering.

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