Smellyhobbit said:

If your argument for a vegan diet is that meat is unhealthy you’ve already lost. The only argument for a vegan diet is the ethical one, which I believe is a totally valid point of view. But no, meat is not bad for you.

People need to understand that nutritional science is one of the biggest guessing games on the planet. Lots and lots of correlation but no definitive causation. Was it the steaks John ate that gave him heart disease or the 5000 other habits he had? We’re just gonna say red meat because that’s what the study set out to prove.

If we weren’t supposed to eat meat, if it were bad for us, why are our bodies made to digest it primarily? Why, as a whole food, is it universally desired? Craved, even?

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So you're not denying you can be perfectly healthy and competent on a whole food, plant based diet? Most of the planet thinks you'll drop dead if you're vegan. Can you digest meat? No it cannot!

Fibre is what humans are designed to eat; from nuts, seeds, legumes, grains, fruit and vegetables. Fibre feeds beneficial gastrointestinal microbiome.
There's also real proof, like quite literally proof, that eating a whole plant based food can reverse heart disease (same with diabetes and cancer)

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Desired? Craved? People crave chocolate, biscuits, crisps, pizzas, burgers, fries and unhealthy food.... does that mean its alright?
From an evolution point why do people eat meat? because its a caloric dense food and full of fat, which our ancestors needed.. but not now.

KevinDontWave said:

If the modern food supply chains collapse most American's are utterly fucked.

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daz01 said:

Smellyhobbit said:

If your argument for a vegan diet is that meat is unhealthy you’ve already lost. The only argument for a vegan diet is the ethical one, which I believe is a totally valid point of view. But no, meat is not bad for you.

People need to understand that nutritional science is one of the biggest guessing games on the planet. Lots and lots of correlation but no definitive causation. Was it the steaks John ate that gave him heart disease or the 5000 other habits he had? We’re just gonna say red meat because that’s what the study set out to prove.

If we weren’t supposed to eat meat, if it were bad for us, why are our bodies made to digest it primarily? Why, as a whole food, is it universally desired? Craved, even?

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So you're not denying you can be perfectly healthy and competent on a whole food, plant based diet? Most of the planet thinks you'll drop dead if you're vegan. Can you digest meat? No it cannot!

Fibre is what humans are designed to eat; from nuts, seeds, legumes, grains, fruit and vegetables. Fibre feeds beneficial gastrointestinal microbiome.
There's also real proof, like quite literally proof, that eating a whole plant based food can reverse heart disease (same with diabetes and cancer)

EDIT:

Desired? Craved? People crave chocolate, biscuits, crisps, pizzas, burgers, fries and unhealthy food.... does that mean its alright?
From an evolution point why do people eat meat? because its a caloric dense food and full of fat, which our ancestors needed.. but not now.

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

daz01 said:

Another question, do you feel no sympathy for the animals that were created to be reared for food and the way we kill them?

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A cow can feed a family of 4 for a year.  Do you feel sad for the many thousands of plants killed to sustain a vegetarian family?  I life is a life.  A death is a death.

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daz01 said:

You...LITERALLY.... just... said that cravings and desires for meat means its alright to eat. YOU typed that. And I'm the one yappin?!

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What did I misinterpret?

You said because we have cravings and desires for food means we should.
People have cravings for unhealthy food. Desires and cravings means nothing.
It does not matter if it's processed, junk food or lean meats. Cravings and desires does not mean it's acceptable.
Why are some people drawn to eat meat (along with dairy and eggs)? Because our bodies evolved to be drawn to caloric, high fat foods so our ancestors could survive.
You live in a first world country with access to internet.
Therefore, your cravings and desires to eat meat are no longer applicable and means your desires and cravings are no longer valid.

Headies said:

If you crash land in the Andes, I heard that the ass meat of the casualty victims is the best meat to eat. It’s for survival, you must survive!

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Headies said:

If you crash land in the Andes, I heard that the ass meat of the casualty victims is the best meat to eat. It’s for survival, you must survive!

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daz01 said:

You...LITERALLY.... just... said that cravings and desires for meat means its alright to eat. YOU typed that. And I'm the one yappin?!

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christopera said:

And yet we live way longer than our ancestors.

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