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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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MoreThanJustBeefSupremeJr said:
i was literally wearing a long underwear shirt and nitrile  gloves how can i live this down????



:mypleasure:

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Lithop]
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Lithop said:



Omggg :rofl:


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: MushroomMommy]
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I can be a complete idiot, but I just followed this with a 2:10 ratio (2 quarts pseudo-casing). I'm using a 16 QT container and packed this shit out of my spawn+bulk. There's only about 5" of room from the sub to lid.

I don't understand how you've fit 12 QTs of sub into a 16 QT container with so much room left. I mean, we've the same volume container and sub. And you even said not to pack with all your might. It's obviously too late for me to change anything, and if I need to I'll adapt to a dub-tub.

I think for my next attempt I'll just do 1:5 per each 16 QT container.

Thanks for the thoroughness btw! gifs are perfect.

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Ozymandyas]
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can you post pics?


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Sweeeeeeet Post.  Thanks for the super clear write up and awesome visual aids.  I've got two WBS jars that will be colonized soon and this looks like just the ticket for my first tub!!!

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Thankful]
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Beef, how much coir do you have to prep for one of those tubs? Will a 650 gram brick bucket tek be enough?

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: PsychedelicGator]
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Okay, Beef. I have just spawned my first ever grain jars to bulk, Beefy-style. Though, with the slight necessary modification that shrinkflation has caused 16qt tubs to now be 15qt tubs (!!), at least at Target where I bought mine. But I've read enough on here that cubes just wanna grow that I think it's going to work out okay.

I like your crisp, clean, beefy style. Thanks for the bangin' tek.

Will report back.


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First tub. GT LI to rye 1/12. 4:1 coir 1/30. First harvest 2/19

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: DeviantTex] * 1
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PsychedelicGator said:
Beef, how much coir do you have to prep for one of those tubs? Will a 650 gram brick bucket tek be enough?



One 650g brick coir
= 4 quarts hydrated coir
= 1 gallon
= 16 cups
= 7.5lb
= 120 ounces
= 3.34kg
...approximately

= 2 bricks per 16quart tub, as I read it.


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First tub. GT LI to rye 1/12. 4:1 coir 1/30. First harvest 2/19

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: DeviantTex]
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And for any of you nerds who want to know how I got to 7.5lb:

Q = 1quart = 0.03342 ft^3 (volume of a quart)
Cv = 1 brick = 2"x4"x8" = 0.037ft^3 (volume of a coir brick)
Cm = 650g = 1.43lb (weight of a coir brick)
Wd = 62.4lb/ft^3 (density of water)
Wm = ? lb (weight of water - this is what we're solving for)

4Q = Cv + Wm/Wd (solve for Wm)

Wm + Cm = 7.5lb

Note: I wrote that out because A) I'm slagging off work a bit and 2) I'm actually kinda interested in finding out how accurate that is. Somewhere in the annals of the forums I saw someone (Bod?) recommend a weight or volume of water that's probably about right to hydrate a brick of coir, but I couldn't find it when I went looking recently.

This math says it'd be about 3 quarts, or 2.8kg. Anyone want to (ahem) weigh in on that?


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First tub. GT LI to rye 1/12. 4:1 coir 1/30. First harvest 2/19

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: DeviantTex]
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rock on!


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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Well, Beefman, it's working, and I thank you. Here's my first ever tub. I know it looks pretty good for a first tub, but I'm kind of mad about it. What's with the bald spot? Why's it so uneven? And look at all those goofy side pins. I admire their enthusiasm, of course, but... grumble. I was really hoping to get to feel smug about a proper canopy. Le sigh.

I may have underestimated the amount of force required in the compression step of things. Will rectify. In the meantime, I think your 4:1 is great for my environment, and appreciate your teachings.





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First tub. GT LI to rye 1/12. 4:1 coir 1/30. First harvest 2/19

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: DeviantTex]
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Great TEK Beefy, I've really been enjoying your posts. Not only informative and easy to follow, but funny as hell to boot! (Shake it like a newborn baby....friggin gold!)

Gonna try this out on some Tidal Wave that is almost fully colonized and ready to move on.


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: BeefExtreme]
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If there were a mushroom growing school you should be head prof. Superbly written, as always.

I'm too paranoid not to use a liner but discovered as I was making the holes for a couple of these today that I can double up on 30 gal kitchen trash bags and they fit right over the lid. No folding or taping. I'll be able to just snap them over the lid, stuff and trim. Nice side benefit. Can't wait to spawn to these!

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Spawning The Beefy Tub

The spawning process isn't even close to sanitary and that entire concept needs to go away like a bad dream.



I noticed in the Coir prep and in this tek it does not appear that the coir is ever pressure cooked or otherwise sanitized (other than the boiling water during prep).
After reading this quote it seems like that is not needed?  Isn't adding potentially contaminated coir a problem?


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Azhiaaziam]
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Azhiaaziam said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
Spawning The Beefy Tub

The spawning process isn't even close to sanitary and that entire concept needs to go away like a bad dream.



I noticed in the Coir prep and in this tek it does not appear that the coir is ever pressure cooked or otherwise sanitized (other than the boiling water during prep).
After reading this quote it seems like that is not needed?  Isn't adding potentially contaminated coir a problem?


Beef mentions a bucket of prepped coir.
How you prep is up to you.
People cold water hydrate it, hot water hydrate,
pasteurize, sterilize, whatever.

What i do:
This.
Water content can vary between different brands.
I avoid gardening coir for added shit,
better coir for reptile bedding.


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Goatrider] * 10
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Let me see if I can help put this to rest in my own words.  Im an abstrationist.  I understand the world in relatives and associations. Metaphors are how I make sense of the world so let me tell a story for you and for posterity:

Your success from the point of spawning a tub onward is 100% contingent on the health of your spawn.  Lets think of coir as being a battlefield.  Its not nutritious in and of itself, but the grain within (which is guarded by our allies) is.

sure there is definately other hostiles on the battlefield, but theyre not developed.  Spores, even trichoderma spores, bacterial endospores, are present. Thats a fact of life.  theyre on your skin presently too, but I can assure you, youre not about to be taken over by mold or yeast.

So heres our batflield. No matter how you prepped it, the hostiles are still just mere gametes.  (reproductive cells).  theyre not even babies yet, much less grown men who can pick up a weapon and fight.  To complicate things for our enemies,  wet coir contains no essential nutrition so the liklihood of developing into a soldier seems bleak.

Now here comes the allies.  Two full jars or clean spawn is like air driopping in the entire 101st airborn division onto the battlefield.  Theyre fully delveloped, they have rations, and they have guns, and there is literally millions if not tens and hundreds of millions of them.  They've trained their whole life for this moment, and they were expecting an army or men with weapons.  (As there surely would have been in the wild)

what they find is an almost empty battlefield. Maybe a few toddlers are trapsing around looking for their mommies. Maybe a few starving men wandered onto the field too.  Maybe they fell right out of your nose.  No matter theye marched right over the top of all the same. Left to starve.  There will be nothing for anyone to eat but our allies, and their prescious grains. 

The end. 


Does that make more sense now?  So like Goat said, it really doesnt matter how you prep.  Hes a TC without the tag as far as Im concerned and his method is just as good as Derrayled's. (A tagged TC, who preps his coir with cold water) Both growers, I have admired, learned from, and looked up to for years.  Whos way is better?  Youd have to be a member of the 101st airborn to know that.

I personally use hot water because its a good feeling knowing we killed a few stragglers before we drop our army off.  That, and I hear it makes a softer battlefield.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (03/26/24 06:24 AM)

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: BeefExtreme]
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That was amazing.  I love this place.

Thank you.


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
4. Shake it just as you would a new born baby.







omg thats so funny, because i happen to shake newborn babies just like that rofl!!!


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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: 6The6Despised6One]
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:eek::mushroom2:
now that is a tek.  Just inoculated my first set and am looking for the right set up for me in Florida...was thinking of SGFC but I'm thinking BRF to bulk will work best for me.  Temps are right and I've got some time to get the Coir and already have a few boxes to use...Good job, good pics, very helpful. P>


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If anything can go well, it will!  FSM bumpersticker

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Re: Beefs Beefy Tub Tek [Re: Bluemoonies]
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Has anyone used these 27 qt purple handle containers? sterelite 27 qt

I have been spending way too much time deciding which container to use when I progress to A2G and these seem kind of perfect to me. I was planning on doing pasty's hole pattern using this tek and these look like similar length and width to what Beef is using, except these have more headspace and clear lids, which both seem beneficial. Just wondering if these have been vetted before spending any money... I can't think of any down side, but I don't know enough to be confident.


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